BowFly

I believe carbons are tougher than alluminum. Alluminums may get a "slight" bend in it that you won't be able to see and you will get erratic arrow flight. And also after shooting them for a while, they can lose thier spine from slapping against other arrows and shock, hitting the target with some side-to-side wobble, etc. They are also sensitive to "extreme" weather changes, heat and cold. Carbons however, can splinter. So, test them before each shooting session by flexing them a little to make sure they are still in good shape. BUT... they are either shootable, or not. they bounce back to the straighness that they were when they were made. But, I have one arrow that has has shot rabbits, squirrels, misc. rodents, does, a 600+ lb hog, and HOPEFULLY is going to shoot a couse buck next weekend and It's still in good shape (replaced the Muzzy head a couple of times). That's a Cabelas' Buff Tuff Carbon shaft. I suggest you test allot of different shafts to find what your bow likes, and go with that. I had a Mathews Q2 that wouldn't shoot anything at my draw length except the old Beman 400s, until I added a string loop, then it wouldn't shoot anything well except Gold tips. I have a Mathews Switchback now that likes Axis FMJs, but won't shoot gold tips, or Beman MFX's very well. You just have to figure out what your bow wants. That's why I shoot a black widow recurve now... 52lb. BW PSA recurve, Cabela's Buff Tuff arrows (690 grains total), 125 grain muzzy heads, and glove release. I haven't changed that setup in almost 5 years. : ) I have taken more animals with mt BW recurve than all my compounds combined, and I havn't had to upgrade anywhing other than the string every year.

Yep... He really needs to shoot them to see what fits him and feels the best to him. What he shoots well is what is important. for the compound/recurve choice, here is a quick test to help out. Do you like machined metal or the feel of wood action? Wood - recurve Heavy Metal = compound Do you like a heavier, slower arrow or blistering speed? Heavier/slower = recurve blistering speed=compound Do you want to be able to shoot in awkward positions, i.e., off your back, your stomach, under limbs, lob short shots over logs and stuff? Yes = recurve Huh?!@#@! = compound Do you like to carry lots of gadets with you when you hunt? NO!! = recurve Yea man!! = compound Do you shoot reguarly, (i.e., daily, or close to it), or when you feel like it? Reguarly = recurve when I can = compound Do you plan to take most of your shots going to be under 30 yards? Yes = recurve Further!! = Compound (unless you said you would practice daily) Do you want to be able to shoot quickly and instinctivly like a shotgun, or take aim like a rifle? Snap shooting = recurve dead aim = compound Fred Bear said that if you can consistantly put arrows into a pie plate at 20 yards, you are capable of taking deer. But not many recurve shooters can hit an asprin at 100 yards on purpose, consistantly. (I will probably get email from the Traditional Archer's Society for that one). That should get the decision going in the right direction. It's really like choosing between a 1911 and a glock. Yea, they will both get it done, one in a traditional way, with a snese of history and style, and the other with more modern materials and technology (I like recurves and 1911's, but find a compounds and a Glocks to be very effective tools too). disclaimer: I don't advocate taking a long shot at any animal period. I normally hunt with a recurve, and have watched many, many animals walk away because I didn't feel comfortable taking the shot. I have also missed deer at 30 yards with a compound. So... it's what you are comfortable with, and how much you are going to practice. Almost forgot. Go to ARchery HQ, Randy is the only guy I trust to touch my compound bows to do stuff I can't or don't want to. Other than him, no one touches my Mathews. The guys at Bear Mountain are good guys too, but Randy is the only one I trust to work on my bow. He is an honest guy and will take care of you. Plus he stands behind the products he sells.

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Thanks Guys! I was thinking Coues acted like other sub species of white tail. I just wanted to verify. Wow... I knew the rut kicked in later here, but I didn't realize it hit that late in the year. That's good to know. borderboy - sorry to hear about your mounts being stolen. Man that's just wrong... Thanks again guys! I appreciate the info.

Hey guys, I have been checking trail cams for over a month now, and have not seen any mature bucks. I have seen a TON of does, yearlings, year and a halfs, spikes, button bucks, etc. but no mature bucks. I am relatively new to Coues deer hunting, but I am guessing that Coues are like other deer in general in that bucks and does live seperately, for the most part, until the rut. If I am correct in this assumption, can someone tell me when they start to mingle before the rut, and roughly when does the rut get into full swing in Southern AZ?

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Thanks for including me on the email. That is an awesome Deer o'lantern! Good job!

Howdy Y'all! Although I am still kind of new to the site, my family and I just moved back to AZ after being gone for about 6 years. We lived in Colorado, and then North Carolina. I am originally from Louisiana, and love hunting hogs up close with a recurve, and bowfishing. Since there aren't many hogs out here, deer will have to do. Kidding... I love hunting deer too. I am a computer guy be trade, but I am in the process of building a custom archery trailer, and need some help. I am looking for a good carpet guy, I need to put down 26' X 8.8' and I would prefer HD carpet squares, so I can replace them as needed without the expense of ripping the whole floor out. I live up on the north side of Tucson. If you know of anyone close by, shoot me an email. Thanks! Charles (BowFly)

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The bouble Bull blinds cost more for several reasons. 1. the material is specially made for DB (the fabric, and the camo). 2. the material that is cut to make the windows can't be reused 3. they are heavier duty material, lasts longer 4. holds your sent in better 5. doesn't flap in the wind 6. doesn't reflect light (that spooks game too) 4. only one zipper, the windows are flaps, no noise - I can step into mine with the infinately adjustable windows (never have to open the zipper at all) 5. 6 second setup (that's how long it takes me to put up my matrix) 6. The hub system is made out of metal/steel. 7. There are additional ties to steak it to the ground at the side hubs. 8. Comes with it's own cotton bag and sling to carry it (cotton not to make noise when you slide it out of the bag) 9. you can use the tie straps to tie foliage to your bling to break up the outline better 10. There is a roof flap for duck/water fowl huntin, or to let some heat out in the summer. 11. all black interior, you wear black inside, no animals can see you, including humans for that matter... 12. They are super cool guys, that stand behind there products. They have the longest warranty on the market. Brooke's and Keith (one eyed stinky Pete), are the real deal, they design them based on there real world hunting experience, and have killed thousands of animals around the world to prove the there blinds are the best for a reason. They are built that way. man, the list goes on and on. I have seen first hand, someone using one of those ameristep blinds on a water hole, and the antelope went half a mile around that water hole to go to one where there was a double bull (public land). I have had deer walk to 5 feet from my blind, with me and two kids in it. never spooked them at all. AND I PUT THE BLIND UP WHEN WE WALKED IN THAT AFTERNOON. do that with an ameristep blind. For the guy that shoots a long bow, I do too. Mine is an English flatbow, about 5 feet long. They make a recurve height blind, at no additional charge that is about almost a foot taller than the regular blinds. Besides, I don't have problems shooting out of my blind with any of my trad bows. Randy has some up at Archery HQ in Chandler. He is a great guy, and runs one of the finest shops in the western US. If you are down here in Tucson area, email me and I will let you check out one of mine. And if my post here doesn't help you out, call double bull... 1-800-523-2395 here is a video clip from bowhuntingworld magazine. if that link does't work try this one

It sounds to me like the only logical thing to do is slow down or stop human population growth in AZ. Stop building houses, increase the wide open spaces. I vote we have tags next year for realestate developers. A six month archery season should do it, oh, and make it leagal to hunt over Starbucks! Yep, uhuh... that would do it. (this is a joke and in now way intended to encourage anything stupid, like hunting in city limits).

Double Bull man... the quality is unmatched. Keith and Brookes still design them and control the quality. TDB is by far the best. Hands down. I have spent more money on blinds than I would like to admit, but once I bought one DB, I will never buy anything else.

Oh yea... almost forgot. Feeder for Sale! $100 used two days, and includes about 80lbs of corn. Would trade for decent trail cam.

IT's all good. Hey, I love Arizona as much as the next guy, and want to bowhunt as much as I can. Also, I think each person should hunt how they were tought, as long as it's legal, to honor those that took the time to teach them to enjoy the outdoors. I think there are a TON of good people here in AZ, I just want to figure out what is going on with the regs and laws, and why some things are the way they are. I am a pretty easy going guy, and I hold myself accountable for the actions I make. Unfortunately, many don't and that's why we have some of the laws we have. I was always taught to leave it better than you found it, don't do anything to hurt someone, and we are all stewards of nature. Nature deosn't belong to us, but we need to take care of it so our kids and grand-kids will get to enjoy it, as our fathers did. It's not a difficult concept, but apparently some weren't tought that lesson and it hurts us all. I had some good conversations with other guides, outfitters, and just good ethical hunters from this thread. Through the conversations, I found lots of good people and I am glad I posted. This was my first post on here, and definately got good feedback, and learned a ton about the system (it's been about 7 years since I lived here, so that helped bring me up to speed). All in all... good people, strong feelings, and lots of good hunting around the state. You can't go wrong with that, right? P.S. - I was directed to county regs where it states feeders are illegal in Pima and Maricopa counties as of 2006. So, I couldn't put up a timed feeder even for pictures. So, I ultimately got my answer. I will just have to hunt with my camera for a while, and I am OK whith that too. : )