BeardownAZ

Yeah, I to worry about the 7mm wsm disappearing and will probably not go with it cause of that. I know people used to say the .357 Sig would disappear in the pistol world but it seems to be making it. However I think the 7mm is in a different boat here in the rifle world than the .357 Sig is in the pistol world. The 243 wssm really seem to of made a huge improvement according to the ballistics comparison with the standard 243. But when Winchester took a dive off a cliff a few years ago, I think all these calibers either went along with the company or suffered cause of it. Its a shame, cause its always nice to have more options even if they aren't always really needed or much better.

Hey SunDevil, dont blame Dennis Erickson on us Wildcats!! That was all you guys. ! The 270 wsm seems like maybe abetter choice ammo wise, but both are really ballistically great on paper. Hows there recoil? Similar to the originals?? I hear the newer 70s are good to and I have noticed they arent currently chambering the latest ones in 7mm wsm either. Weird cause its ther own caliber.

Not knocking anyones ways either but "all natural" for me is the most rewarding. Baiting, feeding etc, would cost alot I would think, also you know they are gonna show eventually. I like the challenge of not knowing when and where its gonna be as fustrating as it can be sometimes. The Tv shows are neat to see the size of the animals but these guys are shooters, farmers, not really hunters IMAO. They are guided right to the animals or crop them up in there backyard and get all outragously happy like they are suprised to see the animal they just shot. Genetically altered may be a big deal to see how big they get to a scientist doing a experiment but to a hunter?? Theres nothing wild about it or even challenging! No skill required. Just not for me but to each his own, I guess!

Well I hunted 31 this year, and yeah there is no life of anykind in 27 ! And there are no whitetail or bear in 31 either!!

Done for the year. No dice this time . As much as I hate to admit this, I missed a running shot yesterday that I could've, should've made, at a small fork horn. Sighted for 200, he was 150-175 yards at moving quickly and shot right over his back. I missed judged the distance and aimed high. Oh, well. Guess it better to have gotten to shoot and not at all. Will probably go back to 27 Mulies but have a crazy itch to buy a 7mm wsm or 270 wsm and get into this shooting long distances at lil grey deer !!

I am seing loads of does. Most with youngins right behind. Has to be bucks around if there are fawns right?? I would think seeing something(does) should be ok. But I am not a expert by any means on this. Just read all my other question asking posts .

ok. So how about this. Do you walk to your first area in the morning in the full dark or wait till light ?? I have been walking once it is just barely light enough to see. Thats how I have always done it with Mulies, with fear of kicking something up and not being able to see it. Maybe thats part of my problem right now. Not being already at my spot ready to glass at first light but still walking. in.

So when glassing, do they bed down or feed on the shady sides of the hills usually or where ever?? They seem to always be on the shaded sides when I see them , making me have to glass into the sun creating distortion in the binoculars and or scope? And are you already in your place before the sun or any light is out?? Thanks in advance for any help and help already given.

Not giving up yet! I will hunt till my last day or till I get one. I was just mentioning that I am not sure that Coues is my cup of tea but I can see more and more as I go out why people do like them. I am starting to comeup with different game plans and have been in some really heavy Coues country. Gonna get up tomorrow and make myself plant in one spot and do some real glassing. I think people get hooked cause they are hard and want vengeneance on there sorry lil butts ! kinda like wanting what you can't have sorta deal. And screw the WAC, its all PAC-10 here!! And were is Illinois program going right now?? Not the direction Sean Millers is!!! We'll give you that game and blown lead !

Yeah, I just can't spend the amount time in the field it takes in order to be more successful at least for the bigger ones anyways. But thats okay. I still like the fact that I can go out and hunt either way. I still have fun. I still just cant get over the fact that they are so much different than Mule deer and I am not talking physical differences. One of these days when my lil ones are bigger and can go with me, than I might start going more dedicated and truly scout and glass some harder and longer. Whoe knows. Again, How much does colder weather affect there behavior?? I dont mean rut time either though.

I am a Mulie(carp : ) hunter who has lived his whole life in the Graham/Greenlee area except my military time. I am hunting my first true dedicated Whitetail hunt in Unit 31 in 2 weeks. I recognize quite a few people on this forum and figured this forum would be of some help. I am thinking about the area around Sand Tanks or the opposite side of Klondyke Rd toward the west side of Tripp Canyon. I hear its a good area but will find out on the 23rd I suppose. I also hear Stockton Pass can become a city during the hunts, I've only varmint called there. Any tips or help would be greatly appreciated. I guess we'll see if I can let go of Mulies only and try something new. Thanks in advance.

Man, you guys got it so right about the big stores. You pay a price for getting it cheaper and my experiance has always been deplorable customer service at the big retail giants. I still dont understand why they still cant teach there staff how to have alittle bit of friendliness and helpfulness towards the people who are making it possible for them to have a job to begin with. I definetly need to start reloading, especially .45 auto .