yesitisme25

HOLY SMOKES! I'd say the pics do the buck justice! that thing is a pig. Look at that frame. Very much congrats to the hunter. Good job Wards Outfitters.

I did speak with someone in the department and the rules are how it was posted and clarified by most here. Thanks. No flying while there are ANY big game hunt going on or within 48 hrs prior to any hunt in an area, excluding mountain lion. Also, it is true that anyone who holds a "special permit" or anyone AIDING (didn't clarify but I assume that means friends helping or guides being paid to help) a special permit holder cannot fly within 48 hrs of hunting with that permit. That clears a lot up thx. scoutpylot and everyone who replied, thanks for your replies. They were helpful. Personally I think flying is a great way to scout, unfortunately it seems it is looked down upon by some. And I think someone asked if I was going to be flying one of those parachute plane contraptions. I will not be flying myself but I have a cousin that has a little Cessna and he offered to fly the area. I know a lot of people seem to fly for scouting but are afraid to admit it. I guess people think less of them if they scout via air. Oh well, don't hunt for them. Thx again and happy hunting this year folks.

300, Did you copy and paste that from the 09'/10' regs themselves? They must have revisioned them because I don't remember them being that clear in definition. I did not have this years regs to read. I don't remember them referencing the special seasons and such. What is that statute you highlighted? Is that for the auction or governer's tags? If so, does that mean no one can fly when the auction hunter is able to hunt? Well wouldn't that keep anyone from flying at any time cause I thought there was an auction tag holder season 365 days a year? Or is that just saying those involved with the auction tag holders can't fly but everyone else can? See so confusing!!!!!!!!! I don't want to make a mistake. Still have to call office, hopefully they can clarify.

Thank you Amanda, that is how I read it but I have seen otherwise when out in the field so I was confused. In fact, I have seen Game and Fish conduct their aerial surveys during hunts so I guess I am a little wary of who to believe. I guess the best thing would be to call G and F, although I have done that before on other issues and gotten different answers to the same question by different employees before. That's why I was hoping there was some experienced flyers out there who may know for sure. 30-378, boy you seem to have an axe to grind with the G and F. I saw you had some concerns on the bear dispossal issue as well. Maybe we can get a G and F employee to clarify on here for us like on the bear issue. It is always better to be fully informed, especially on a seemingly confusing issue such as this. In the mean time, I will call the office and let you know what I find out. I just have a busy schedule so thought this could save time.

Can anyone on here, maybe Amanda, Coues n Sheep, or CMC, who seem to have a knowledge of Arizona Game and Fish laws, tell me what the laws are regarding time frames to fly for scouting purposes? I've got an upcoming early elk tag and I would like to hire someone to fly my unit for scouting purposes. My interpretation is that as long as I don't fly in my unit 48 hrs prior to the early elk hunt that I am legal. Is this correct? The writing is a little confusing in the regs.