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Thanks. I have had the 12 ELs and both generations of 15s. I like the higher magnification better and think the 14s would be nice to have along with my 15s.

I just recently seen these videos from Minnesota where police were walking down streets yelling at people to get inside and shooting pepper balls during covid. Probably one of the most sickening things I have seen regarding our freedoms and rights.

Thanks for the feedback!

Yeah I was gonna order but November is what I heard. I am gonna wait. I keep hearing they're great though.

That sounds like the FFL you use is doing that because they want to and not because it's a requirement. My neighbor is a FFL so I pick his brain when I see him about my transfers but I would never trust anyone on the internet. You can download the pdf below if you want. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.azleg.gov/Briefs/Senate/ARIZONA'S%20CONCEALED%20CARRY%20LAWS%202022.PDF&ved=2ahUKEwjW6tmXj_WHAxXlGEQIHTC6EjcQFnoECBgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1mTljvc0vIQec5L3cecmV3

That is incorrect. No background check is done for a CCW holder. You fill out paperwork and it gets filed.

Exactly. I dont vote for someone's character, but I do vote for the person who will be preserve the freedoms that I still have and the interest that I care about.

Or he was trying to be funny 😁

I can definitely agree and respect that, but I cannot understand how someone can support her (if you align yourself with the right). I get that you hate someone that much but I would think that you just wouldn't vote or write a name in. Endorsing her is crazy to me.

Just because an argument gets "old" doesn't make it invalid. Another reason why i dont like it is because i hate paying for something and not having it in my hands. Thats the exact reason why I haven't purchased the NL 14s yet. I don't want to wait till November. The $200 tax is just icing on the cake. You better believe if they got rid of the stupid process that there currently is that I'll have suppressors falling out of my butt as i walk. In fact by your original thought (sorry, not yours but MogollonMan's), I think I am the one that is furthering the cause to get things changed by NOT doing what they want and kissing the ATF boot. Again, that is how I see things. I think it should be a right. If I have to go to a FFL and fill out a quick form to get it then that's okay, I can compromise. Some people can't or won't and that's okay too.

Yes, I gave examples of not having to get "permission" to do something. That could mean all your purchases are made by private party or you go through one thorough background check at first and a simple renewal every 5 years to skip a step in a future process. IMO it is not the same as applying for a stamp. A tax is just another kick in the nuts IMO. Some people like that sort of stuff and that's okay with me.

You do understand that AZ is a constitutional carry state right? I will just save time by asking you to confirm your original argument: Is the purchase of a firearm the same as purchasing a suppressor?

Ahh you need things broken down barney style. I get it. I will remember that next time. Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's flawed. Besides the tax there are more steps you must take before you get approved and actually receive each NFA item. It is not the same, but I can understand how you might think they are.

Not sure what's hard to understand. You don't need to buy from an FFL if you don't want to. I don't believe in paying a tax or asking for permission to cross state lines in the case of owning an SBR. BTW if you have a CCW and buy a gun from an FFL there is no NICS check. Fill out the form and be on your way. What are you confused about?

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Please explain how this punishes me and people I hunt with AND how by NOT doing something that is controlled/regulated makes liberals happy that their control or regulation is working? Please make that make sense?

You spelled "every gun you purchase from a FFL" wrong.

Exactly. People like to read too hard into things. I guess you could make the argument that hearing aids are listening technology? I am the exact opposite, it needs to be clear and undeniable. If it isnt then they can pound sand

I will buy a suppressor when I dont need to ask big brother for permission. Until then.............

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They all do it now I'm sure. My ford's do it, it comes in handy actually to track my vehicles. GM has been doing it with on-star forever, they just didn't give you access to it.

Not factory but dealer installed (aftermarket). Should be very easy to remove because it takes time to install them in a way where theyre not noticeable and most wont got that deep. When I was still in the industry I managed the installation of about 450 of them. They were not easily disabled due to the in-depth install. Also they would cause a draw if they failed (usually from a failed back up battery).