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https://www.outdoorlife.com/hunting/crossbow-vs-compound-bow/ an objective look at compound bows vs crossbows.

Friday. Trying to get there, but have an appointment at the VA that has been on the books for 8 months.

Im not an attorney, but I have had multiple concussions so my brain has been bruised enough to understand some of their ways. My hairbrained comments are below each item. b. Litigation and Legal Advice. The Commission may vote to meet in executive session in accordance with A.R.S. § 38-431.03(A)(3) and (4) for the purpose of discussing and consulting with legal counsel for legal advice in order to consider its position and to instruct legal counsel regarding the Commission’s position concerning the legal strategy recommendations from the Department’s legal strategies team. Circular legal speak, asking the attorneys if whatever shenanigans the legal strategies team has concocted will get them sued c. Legal Advice. The Commission may vote to meet in executive session in accordance with A.R.S. § 38-431.03(A)(3) for the purpose of discussing and consulting with legal counsel for legal advice regarding the Commission's authority to close state trust lands to hunting and to close roads providing access to state trust lands. Closing off select land to the public doesn't hurt their $$$$$. We pay the same. They can now charge more for the now "private property" leased state trust land f. Legal Advice. The Commission may vote to meet in executive session in accordance with A.R.S. § 38-431.03(A)(3) for the purpose of discussing and consulting with legal counsel for legal advice regarding a proposed petition to amend Commission rules related to the lawful methods of take and seasons for taking wildlife. Crossbow and OTC g. Legal Advice. The Commission may vote to meet in executive session in accordance with A.R.S. § 38-431.03(A)(3) for the purpose of discussing and consulting with legal counsel regarding trespasses and other unauthorized activities on Commission-owned Wildlife Areas. Robbins Butte, Powers Butte are 2 that came to mind, I see illegal dumping out there. Dont see this one as sketchy i. Purchase or Disposal of Real Property and Legal Advice. The Commission may vote to meet in Executive Session pursuant to A.R.S § 38-431.03(A)(3) and (7) for the purpose of discussion or consultation with Department staff in order to consider its position and instruct its representative regarding the purchase or disposal of real property and for the purpose of discussing and consulting with legal counsel for legal advice I wonder are we buying or selling? the legal definition of real property is land and anything that is affixed to, growing on, or built upon the land. Are b, c and i connected? Are these connected to the rumors for a push for landowners tags?

Just spitballing here, but limiting access to certain leased land would make those leases more desirable. If you own land and post it, but now you can keep people off leased state trust land too. How much more could they charge for those leases? They are looking at closing it to hunting and closing access roads. This dovetails with Land Owner Tags. The leased land would not increase the quantity of tags, but would stop joe public from hunting those "private" areas

Here is the entire agenda January-24-2025-Commission-Meeting-Agenda.doc (1).pdf

If you look at the agenda for the meeting being held this Friday, read down in the executive meeting minutes. During the closed session Legal Advice. The Commission may vote to meet in executive session in accordance with A.R.S. § 38-431.03(A)(3) for the purpose of discussing and consulting with legal counsel for legal advice regarding the Commission's authority to close state trust lands to hunting and to close roads providing access to state trust lands. What do we think about that? Our land?

Complain on forums, push to punish everyone. Make allegations of fraud, on same public forums... Your job here is done.

Prime example of the problem. Complains about fraud, but doesn't want to do more than complain and make allegations.

Sad, if nobody is interested in stopping theft and fraud.

How is it that everyone knows someone that is committing fraud, but nobody is reporting them to Game Thief? Instead, many are pushing to take away something from everyone, people who have not committed fraud.

I just got a pair of 8s. They are great. Hold out for the 8s.

Did you call Game Thief?

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in your opinion. When OTC goes away, lets just sit back and say wow. Crossbows in 1996 were not archaic either. Have a great day. enjoy what you have while you have it.

Right from the proposed rulemaking clarification sheet "Crossbow technology was much simpler in 1996 when the crossbow permit was initiated, but improvements in crossbow technology have advanced to a point that crossbow is no longer comparable to standard archery equipment and cannot be considered reasonable accommodation in archery-only hunts." 1956 when the first only archery hunts were put in, that's traditional/primitive. Compound bows were not invented until 1966, patented in 1969. My first compound bow was from the early 80s. Basically 2 wheels. Judging distance was an art. If you wanted a range finder it was mechanical with a wheel to align the images. My father-in-law was an engineer at PSE in Tucson, I got to benefit from the advances quickly. Upgrading every time the latest and greatest came out. The grip was off set, eccentric radical cams, and the hits kept coming. So lets be honest, 90% let-off, trigger release, laser range finders, carbon fiber lightweight bows and arrows, that shoot at speeds of 300fps+ are not anywhere close to what was standard or traditional archery equipment from 1956, 1966, 1976, 1986 or even 1996. So if you start pulling threads, be sure your not unraveling something you don't want to fall apart.