cactusjack

Bought it to hunt 18 years ago, but it is too nice.

Just kidding, I ain't getting rid of it

Here's mine. Open to trades

It is amazing how far this went off track. The net net, Disabled hunters are amongst us. From kids to adults. ADA law requires accommodations be made to ensure that individuals with disabilities have an equal opportunity to participate in public hunting programs and activities. Public entities may need to make reasonable modifications to their policies, practices, and procedures to ensure individuals with disabilities can access public hunting programs. For example, this could involve adapting regulations or providing alternative means of access. The public comment period is required by law also. The Commission is not required to do what the public wants, they are supposed to act in the best interest of the wildlife and wildlife management, based on scientific studies. But we should still comment. Reasonable modifications and accommodations do not mean that everywhere has to be accessible, but it does mean that the disabled hunter doesn't have to hang it up and go fishing or sit on the sideline. Many of us volunteer on youth hunts for friends, family or just someone asking for help. It is an awesome experience being with them on their first or 5th hunt. Doing the same thing with a disabled person that thought they would never get the chance, kid or adult, to hunt or keep hunting is life changing for everyone involved. Whether you change your mind one way or the other, doesn't really matter. Negative comments about who you think should or should not hunt will not affect the outcome, it just shows how you think and treat others. The internet has made people feel more comfortable to show their true colors. Ghandi has a famous quote when asked why he rejects Christ, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ".

OTC deer is dying. I give it 3 years, 5 tops. Unit 1 is the proof. 80 tags filled in 6 days, limit was 45 for the season. Let's be generous and say 20% were crossbow, combination champ and crossbow permit hunters, so that's 16,lets remove them. So 64 were killed by vertical bow hunters. Unit still closed in 6 days. This year 1 and 27 went to the draw. Next year it will be the next group of mule deer units. And so it will be...

The CHAMP permit isn't going away. Neither is the Crossbow permit. You are going to have to deal with that. The only things they are deciding are-- What conditions qualify. Who can sign off. What can be used on the crossbow.

I understand that life isn't fair, never claimed that it was. Myself and a bunch of other disabled vets get that 100%. We get a hardy "Thank you for your service" on Nov 11th, but then we get told Life isn't fair when it comes to trying to live a somewhat normal life.

What has surprised me the most through this entire process is the lack of empathy and support for fellow hunters, specificly ones that are trying to have as normal of a life as possible while dealing with medical issues. Is it jealousy? Fear? Pure protectionism? Ignorance? It must be driven by scarcity and FOMO. I started writing my story but decided it doesn't matter, people's opinions are set. I wish you all years of health but if you do have an unfortunate change of medical situation, I hope you are able to continue participating in something you love even if it has to be modified to an extent.

I think when you voluntarily give your information out, HIPPA is kinda off the table.

Its going from here to compound bows and on to muzzleloaders. Pull the thread and watch your sweater unravel...

Most modern crossbows have optics of some sort. I have not seen any with pins and a peep in many years

Thats the thing that's funny about this, no evidence that this occurred on any large scale. Not 1 citation, warning or documented case was presented. Only anecdotal stories. OTC deer hunts being moved to the quota system has pushed people into looking for a scapegoat. OTC deer tags are doomed. Deal with it

The rule making public comment period is open on the Champ and Crossbow permit rule changes. It opened on the 11th of July and closes Aug 9th. The highlights or lowlights are- --"Qualified healthcare provider" to sign is limited to Doctor of Osteopathy or Doctor of Orthopedic Medicine. --Crossbow permit is renewed yearly. Removed.. was proposed Prohibited items for Crossbow Permit -- Magnifying or telescoping scope, red dot or other type of optic on a crossbow. -- Any form of bipod, tripod or other device used to balance, rest or steady a crossbow when a crossbow is in use, except a permit holder with a missing upper body extremity as defined in subsection (E)(4)(a)(i) below, may use such a device. There are more changes, but these are the ones I keyed in on. Mind you, Air Bows and vertical bows can still use Red Dots, magnified sights and bipods/tripods/braces. Just being applied to crossbows. My take away from talking with several Commissioners and many at the Department, the amount of "fraudulently acquired" permits was over played/emphasized and based on anecdotal evidence . The main problem seems to be the programs are not currently manageable or even trackable. I'm all for limiting the provider but the other changes are not reasonable. Here is a link to comment- https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScYIhOra-8hsDSgR8mjOmG99pSydNfhvrvufWo8B3zbBRfAtg/viewform champ and crossbow permit proposed changes 2025.pdf

Wearing earplugs is great. Everyone should wear them every time they shoot. Especially when using a brake. Everyone I talk to about ear plugs has a plan. Unfortunately putting them in is most often the part of the plan that is skipped when a quick shot or buck fever kicks in.

I read a different tone in this response. My problem with the way this whole thing unfolded is it was based on unsubstantiated allegations and anecdotal accounts of fraud, technological advancement restrictions only applyed unilaterally, initiated by biased groups trying to protect a doomed OTC deer hunt, targeting a group of people who already have many personal challenges. Are there people who cheated the system? Probably. Does it need to be reworked? Sure. Had it been worded as simply as the following, in my opinion the division in groups and anger by those who feel attacked would have been much less. The current Crossbow and CHAMP permit programs have become unmanageable in their current form and the Commission is proposing a purge and restart with new requirements. Public comment period is from .. to .. . (Given facts, purposed new requirements and restrictions on equipment)