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nope and nope. Lark.

Az bears get old. the southwest is real condusive to old bears. lots of real remote areas they can live without much trouble from people. and they have to stay in shape. can't help it, steep mountains, rough country, sometimes slim pickins. they have to travel a lot to stay fed. backeast they kill 600 lb bears that score 16 or 17. fat slobs that have been living outta garbage cans the outfitters set out for em, etc. in Az they hafta work hard to stay fed. when they get big, they are big muscular bears, not slobby fat like you see back east. that's why they get big heads out here. they can get old and don't die of heart disease and laziness. Az is real lucky for it's bears. Lark.

nope. this place is more secret than i even figgerd it was. Lark.

could be bill. i always figgerd johnny gray put it there, but he said he didn't. it's been there are as long as i can remember, but i ain't for sure when i was there the first time. probly late 60's. whoever did it hammered a couple old horse shoes over the eyeguard and then put a buncha bailing wire around it. it's all grown over now. Lark.

nope. too far southwest. i'll give ya a hint. it is a tributary of the gila and it's in Az. think saguaros. Lark

nope. Lark.

bill and single shot are closest, but that ain't it. it's a kinda unknown place. we went there on an Easter picnic a few years ago and most of the folks were astounded to know it was even there, even tho they'd lived in the area for decades. if you know about saguaro habitat, that might help figger it out. Lark.

nope. good guess. Lark

saunders cabin is one of the jewells of the mogollon. you can get there by bailing off the salt house trail from up by the highway or by taking the road up eagle creek from honeymoon. but the road from honeymoon is usually washed out. when i took this photo we had ridden in horseback, or muleback for me and 1 son, and were spring turkey hunting. the cabin is always open and there is always a little food there, if you get siwashed and can find your way to it. just leave it in good shape. it belongs to the 4 drag lease and they have to maintain it, but it's public land and we're all fortunate to have it. it's worth the effort to see it some time. great country. Lark.

the salt is there for livestock. it's easier to keep a pack saddle balanced with loose salt than with blocks. i think horse, cow, deer and elk smell was an attractant. that and the country where these bears are is loaded with bears. ever see that many big boars in one place? have a photo of one other bear that is actually heavier than any of these. usually big boars don't tolerate each other much and stay outta each others territory. the bruiser lives real close. see his bed all the time. his scent might have something to do with the other bears coming in. i posted these to give folks something to use to judge bears, so they hopefuly don't shoot sows and weiners. that big ol' sow would make a real nice rug, but she is a reall good mama that raises lotsa cubs, be a shame for her to get popped. she contributes a bunch to the bear population. and the wieners, well they're just ain't much there. shoot the big ones. i think the bear in the photo that started this is real close to shooter size. probably be around 200 when the season starts. he ain't no 1-2 year old cub for sure. not all boney looking and skinny. he's figured out how to get some meat in his diet. have fun. season is close. Lark.

emerald peak. Lark

dang i missed it. jack is the winner. saunder's cabin. way up eagle creek, under the rim. the wallow fire almost got it, but it survived. it's a loooooong way from civilization. good job jack. Lark.

Me too. it's up a lot higher than it looks in the photo. i'm kinda surprised it ain't rotted off. c'mon guys. somebody knows where it is. guess this'n an' i'll figger out another one. Lark.

they have jaws like a crocodile. great for getting wild cattle outta the brush. some folks run em with bear dogs. Lark.

that ain't funny!! Lark.

nope. that i know of, they never had a ranch. at east not rogether. Clell kinda married into one on the upper blue. this place ain't a real furr piece from there. i think jack may know where it is. Lark.

that anlter was put there about 50 years ago. the treee has grown over the base and one eyeguard. nature girl is getting warm. it's a neat place. Lark.

you see any arrows in this tree? everbody knows where it is. i met a guy from alabama that knows where it is. Lark.

shoot a big one. nice fotos. Lark.

i always wire up a live grenade to mine. yeah, you lose the camera, but they don't get it. then you set up a camera on the "bait" that's left and take photos of the bears. Lark/

good times. you're doing it right. dirty faced little fish catchers anyway. Lark.

Eleanor O'connor killed an elephant with an '06. should work for midget deer. Lark.

people should really watch they put out there on the net. kids are reading this. what would your mama say? Lark.

never tried to post photos before. hopefully this works. here's an object lesson. do with it what you want with it. i could have shot everyone of these bears in the past few years, but didn't. i look at and watch dozens of bears a year. this is full grown adult sow. she has raised multiple cubs the last few years. had 2 last year. she weighs well over 200 lbs, maybe over 250. look at her nose and front feet. just lihe a woman, no matter how big they get, their feet and nose don't grow. she also has skinny legs. check out the ears. this is a medium sized boar. probably less than 300lbs. big head. check out his ears. he also has really long fur. early spring. but look at his feet and legs. check out how thick they are. gonna be a helluva bear someday. he's bigger than the bear in the photo at the beginning of the post. this is a big boar. he's wet so you can see how he's built, notice how much air is under his belly. big bears get tall. he's probably approaching 400 lbs, and not real fat. i call him the bruiser. look at his ears in this photo. this is the bruiser dry. look at his ears close. they look fairly tall. some folks think that means a small bear. this ain't no small bear. he'll score real high. looks at the scars on his head. check out the claws and the size of his front legs. his ears are up because he heard something. the next photo i got a couple seconds later was of him biting the camera. check out the head on that one! can you even see ears? this thing has a head like an big block chevy engine. anyway, look these over. bear season will be upon you soon. everybody needs to shoot at least one but you need to try to shoot good ones. there are a lotta bears right now if you look in the right places. learn what a big one looks like. i don't care to shoot anymore myself, but you guys have fun. and no, i won't tell you where these ones live. Lark.

i think that's a good sized boar. big back foot on him. broad butt, long legs. broad nose. not a huge bear, but doesn't look at all like a sow or a youngen. Lark.