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i ain't never had any problems with the cans it comes in. just keep the lid on it tight and don't store it in the shower. this is Az. we ain't got much of a humidity problem. besides, it don't last long around my place. Lark.

i'm gonna hafta dig into my files and come up with the particulars, but here's some facts to ponder. this past winter, 07/08, is the coldest in decades. just read that the other day, but it wasn't widely reported. the guy who owns the weather channel said it. the coldest decade in the 20th century was the 90's. the warmest was the 30's. the sun is hotter now than at any time since we've been able to measure it. scientific evidence proves that earth has gone through dozens of mini-ice ages and warming periods in the past, oh, 20,000 years. a group of real sicientists who don't depend on gov't grants for research, like the guy who owns the weather channel and the guy the gov't hires to predict hurricanes and a buncha other real authorities had a big conference in nyc 3 weeks ago to talk about the globabl warming BS and nobody reported on it. the same guy that really started the global warming deal (no it wasn't al gore. sorry kids) tried like heck to get folks to buy into globabl cooling and an impending ice age, in the late 60's and early 70's. i remember all the media about it. same guy, but it never sold and after we sent up the first space shuttle and could see a hole in the ozone layer and it was automatically blamed on hair spray propellant and freon, he got folks, especially the clinton bunch, to buy into it and now it is gospel. even thought they are trying to base billions of years of weather and trends on about 25 years of data. the govt' has flat out said to folks who depend on gov't grants to buy into global warming or lose their money. al gores movie has at least 10 "lies" in it that have been proven in british court. the hundreds of presently active volcanos put out more greenhouse gases than all of industry, every year. the pollution put out making the batteries for hybrid cars is about 20 times more than can be expected to be saved by driving a hybrid car, in it's life. canada is in a real quandry about what to do with the millions of gallons of contaminated waste they have after manufacturing said batterys. electricity produced with nuclear energy is the safest, cleanest, most efficient form of power. a solar cell will have to be in service for 50 years to cover the pollution it took to create the cell. no matter what the size. solar power is cool if that's the only way of getting juice, but it ain't a good deal for the envornment. and, now this is no bull, listen to what i'm gonna tell ya, WE LIVE IN A DESERT, WE ARE ALWAYS IN A DROUGHT, EVEN IF WE GET "NORMAL" RAINFALL FOR A YEAR, IT IS ALWAYS HOT HERE 9 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, AND WE NEVER GET ENOUGH RAIN!!!! don't drink the koolaid fellers. real live weather scientists are real adamant about this global warming bull. most of them think in less than 20 years, we'll see a turn the other way and it will be cooler for awhile. folks are making big bucks off of this lie. and it is a lie. Lark.

2 weeks ago i found out i was a typical white person, now i'm bitter and cling to guns and religion to make up for it, just because i live in a small town. this guy must rely like how his foot tastes. what a bigoted, racist, elite sob. anybody who votes for obama is an idiot. i don't even hafta mention what anybody is who votes for clinton.

she used to. soon as i bought her her first pair o' shoes, it was all over...........Lark.

31 has turkeys again? now there's some good news. last i knew they were extinct there. stinkin' monkeys killed em all. Lark.

man, you shoulda got some better rings. thats gotta knock the crap outta ya and give ya bad scope eye the way that scope is way down the barrell. Lark.

me and my boy got us some late bull tags. we need a couple camp flunkies, i mean apprentices. ya know, get wood, keep the fire goin', cook for 6 or 8 guys, clean up, pack out elk, skin em, clean muddy boots, saddle the mules ever mornin', shoe em when they need it, etc. all the stuff my wife won't do anymore and she just stays home. then she complains i never take her anywhere. ever time i leave for a month or 2 when i come back she's got new toenails, new hairdo, massage bills, new furniture........ i can't even get a recliner broke in good. why in the heck woulda woman wanna do all that instead bein' the camp toady? can't figger em out. Lark.

i like to see kids learn about high explosives at a young age. wait, you didn't use a hook and line or some other crummy way did ya? Lark.

matty, nobody on here wants some smart@$$ with real facts and good info to get in the way of a good arguement. Lark.

you're over the line there, makin' fun o' skunks that a-way. that's some funny $h!t right there, i don't care who ya are. i hope he gets to see it. maybe he'll have griz write a letter comdemning your action. Lark.

i've never bought into the logic of not voting because no candidate was perfect. i'm going to vote for the best candidate and try real hard to support them. if the lesser of two evils is the only choice, i'll take that choice over not using my vote. like i say, i have more real heartburn over cindy's family than i do mccain's politics. hopefully he'll get a veto pen with a lotta ink, because he's gonna have a real liberal congress and senate. but so did Reagan, and he did ok. it's gonna be interesting. Lark.

they made the 600 in what is called a .350 rem mag. it has more recoil than the cartridges you listed. i think the action will take about anything. but i wouldn't remove any metal from any part of it that holds pressure. put a good brake on it and the recoil shouldn't be too bad. Lark.

bobbyo, because of the electoral college, your vote does count. it is one of, if not the most, brilliant things ever devised. it makes every state relevant in the presidential election. because of the electoral college, all gore isn't the president. not because of the crap in florida either. if he would have carried either his home state of tennesee or the clinton's home state of arkansas, florida wouldn't have mattered. but he didn't look at either state as worth his effort because they only have a couple electoral votes each. i ain't gonna go into a gov't lesson here, but the electoral college is set up so that new york, california and maybe one or 2 other big states don't elect every president. if it was just popular vote, that is exactly what would happen. because of the electoral vote and the way it spreads around electoral vote, every state has real improtance in the election. in 2000, it was the best example ever of how things work. the NRA bombarded tennesee and arkansas with anti-gore adds, more than any other state, and they swayed the vote in both places. and those 2 states turned the election. all we ever hear about is florida and hanging chads and a stolen election, but if gore would have spent some time in his home state, he would have won anyway. and in the florida, the system worked "EXACTLY" how it was supposed to. don't listen to the media BS. the electoral college is a great thing. go to wikipedia or some other good source and read up on it. i know they don't teach any of this stuff in school anymore, so if you got outta high school in the past 20 years, you may not know much about it. so educate yourself. the founding fathers were brilliant and inspired beyond comprehension. Lark.

that's purdy good fer casey. his fingers are sore from all the banjo practice and he can't type real well sometimes. Lark.

i don't think the founding fathers would be too happy about how things are now, but we're still light years ahead of the rest o' the world. it's gonna be interesting. i see now that condi rice is trying to politic into the vp with mccain. that's interesting. don't know how good it'd be, but it'd be interesting. main thing is to vote. Lark.

it only has about a 12 inch mainbeam. can't score too much. maybe it's a tule? Lark.

quiet muzzlebrakes are called silencers. Lark.

this country ain't in the crapper. it's so much better than any place else on earth that there is no comparison. even if we don't have real good choices for president, we have choices. and we have a congress and senate that have to listen to their voters. look at what happened a couple months ago when they tried the end around on the illegal alien amnesty deal. the folks got vocal and scared the crap outta congress and the senate and it got chunked in the trash. we have the system and the laws in place to keep us free and as long as folks stay brave enough to use their voice and vote and are smart enough to see what the big picture is, we'll be ok. obama and hillary are scary, but it's pretty apparent that niether one has much of a chance. mcain has his problems, especially when you look into his wife's family and the mob ties, but we, the voters, can keep him in check. obama is a joke. he hates America, he loves muslims, he hates white people, he hates guns, he hates anyone who has a good job, he even hates his own grandmother, and all that will be displayed very well come election time and Americans are smart enough to see it. hillary is a shreiking witch who hates herself, her life, her husband, everyone who works for her, etc., and it will all end up being displayed in full view. i think right now is a wonderful time for America because there is a real good chance that we'll be rid of the clintons for good. i'm sorta worried about mcain's family ties and how it will play out in the press, because so far they've left it alone. come the general election, i doubt that will happen. i'm looking forward to it myself, because there are lotta folks tied up in that deal that need exposed and need some mud flung on em. this is America at it's finest. the founding fathers were inspired by supreme forces when the consitution was written and when the supreme court and electoral college were formed, plus we have the checks and balances of congress and the senate. and we have state's rights to fend off stupid federal bs when it does come down. things ain't perfect, but they never are. as long as there are 2 people, there will be opinion differences. just have be unselfish and go with what is best for America. if you know something about American history and why the founding fathers did what they did, watching things like this is great. because it just reinforces the fact that this country is a divine place and our government was invented by inspired people. we have our warts, but i'll take warts over skin deep plastic surgery anyday. Lark.

whenever i put a wood stove in a house or cabin or camp trailer or whatever, i decide where i want it and put a magnetic torpedo level on the barrel o' my ol' .22, plumb it up and shoot through the roof. gives ya a perfect place to start cuttin'. i also drop a live chicken down the stove pipe when it needs cleanin'. Lark.

not mine. don't worry dude, he ain't gotta chance. if he beats out the shreaking witch, they'll just have him capped anyway. Lark.

man you need to have your own comedy show. or be a politician. never seen so much flipfloppin'. now a .338/.378 is too big? i guess i'll never figger it out. well, time to get ready for "MY" elk hunt. lemee, what'll i use, maybe a, well, maybe a .270. or would that be unethical?????????

there are a buncha leftover deer and sheep tags. Lark.

they're a good way to start, but plan on spending about 10x that by the time you're done. reloading is worse than meth. the kits will give you everything you need to start out and you can get a lot of experience before you move up into the real expensive drugs, i mean equipment. rcbs makes good stuff. Lark.

keep smilin' and slingin' big words, i'll keep draggin' in big elk. if i had to kill an elk and could take a gun over a bow, i'd take a .17 or a .223 or even a .22 long rifle. would not scare me a bit. just shoot em in the ear or the eye. something that i can do. but then again, i'm a sneaky guy. what my entire arguement is based on is you said a .280 is better than a .270, when they are so near identical there isn't a real arguement. none. their bullets in like weights perform so near identical there's no way to argue it. i've seen big bulls dropped in their tracks with a 100 gr .270 bullet in the lungs. it was out of a short mag going real fast, but it looked like a neck shot. real impressive. but under identical circumstances, ANY reasonable rifle would have done the same thing. i've seen perfect copper bullet lung shots with a .338/.378, a fairly big gun, as in good enough for rhinos and elephants, that ended up in an all nighter tracking with lanterns. you couldn't have drawn a better bullet location on a target. i know it would never have left the meadow even with a .243. my favorite elk rifle is a .300 mag. it's faster with bigger bullets. my kid killed a 6 point last year at 804 yards with his .300 ultra. even at that range, it went maybe 50 feet and died. go ahead, use copper bullets and drill a hole through em and trail em around for awhile. both blood trails go to the same elk. once again, shock, knockdown, whatever you wanna call it is just numbers on a piece of paper. if the paper says you have 2000 lbs of energy it means if you have a 2000 lb weight hanging from a rope, it will swing a foot when you hit it. it doesn't take into any account, the bullet, the animal, whether you're hitting bone or guts or whatever. it's just physics. every action has an opposite and equal reaction, E=MC2, all that einstein stuff. the animal you shoot doesn't know how fast the bullet is going or how hard it hits him. he doesn't go "crap, he shot me with a .338, 250 gr barnes going 2800 fps". he just runs until he dies. when a bullet is wadded up in a big ball under the skin on the off side, i know every bit of it's "shock" was left in the animal. not slung across the countryside after it goes through. on a lung shot a copper bullet zips through, doesn't do a lot of damage, and they run off and you have to track em. it kills em, but not very fast. the elk reaction reminds me a lot of using a muzzleloader. marksmanship is the only factor that really means much, when you're using a rifle suited to what you're hunting. Lark.

i guess i been doin' it wrong. instead o' tryin' to convert hippies, i always just beat em up. Lark.