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ya got a jillion guns in one place. toss in 10,000 assorted rednecks, gun nuts, crooks, mexican cops tryin' to buy illegal guns, neo nazis and skinheads, hunters, collectors, weirdos, gangsters, ww2 vets, korean vets, viet nam vets, iraq vets, small animal vets, etc, you'd think there would be a good chance of it happenin' about once an hour. hunters safety courses must be working. dang, this list made me remember i ain't been to a family reunion in awhile. Lark.

i am jealous. one o' these days maybe i'll get a tag. while i can still walk and don't need diapers. well, sometimes the diapers would be sorta ok now. but that is a helluva ram. what is that wierd aminal on the other side o' the wall> Larl.

be careful, last time somebody found some 'lectronic gadget on here it about caused a killin'. Lark.

eye dominance has pretty much been proven to be a non issue. if you close your dominant eye, the one that is open takes over. bow or rifle, doesn't matter. look at all the shooters in the military. every rifle is made for a right handed shooter. eye dominance doesn't matter. you close the eye you don't aim with. it's real simple. let him shoot which ever way he handles the bow the best and close the appropriate eye and don't worry about it. as long as the sights are lined up, the projectile goes where it's aimed. all the other rumors about are BS. your eye can't bend light, it can't do anything but look at what you point it at. Lark.

the soap deal will work for sure on javelinas. if there's one thing bullwidgeon hates, it's a bath. Lark.

in the group photo, you guys can all ignore my index finger. Lark.

photos and story are on the bowhunting thread. Lark.

we're back from elk season. my son Bridger (grayghost85) shot a good bull. 7x7 scores a little over 370. he's gonna put up a photo and a story soon. good bull. Lark.

if i had a clue how to put pitchers on here i would. then i could make up a real good story to go with it. they're working late tonight, but i'll see if he will do it when he gets home. i think they're havin' to catch up from time missed huntin'. it's a good bull. 56 inch main beams. fairly wide. heavy. black horns with good ivory tips. a dang nice bull. big sucker too. i think he could have been a thousand pounder. didn't get to weigh him but we have 5 extra large ice chests fulla meat. i've drug out a few over the years that were a grand on the hoof and i think this is one. Lark.

i ain't for sure what mine is called. kids bought it for me when i retired. it's a varix 3, 6.5x20x40 with a custom reticle that is set up for my handloads in my .300. i put it on my gun long enough to figger out the barrel was no good and that's all i've used it so far. it has dots out to 500 and then a tall turret takes it on out to 1000. Lark.

at least jack is starting some talk about it. these puppets that we've had for years have been afraid to ruffle even one feather. i like how this greenie tried to include wolves as predators. these stupid currs they slopped on Arizona are less a predator sparrows. and the stupidest thing the azgfd has done in decades was to curtail the lion season for the summer months. looks like maybe they are looking at making it year round again. hope so, Lark.

my kid said he saw them there. good little rifles. i have a mohawk in .243. it's killed more deer than any mountain lion. my kids and numerous other little outlaws shot a bunch with it. when they got scope eye, i let move up to a bigger rifle. a .270 o' course. only thing i don't like about em is the bolt rail on the left side of the action is the same size as a .308/.243 case and it's easy to get one stuck in it and they're hard to get out sometimes, when you're in a hurry. great little gun for a kid to start with. i found a stock for mine that hadn't been cut off and i use it a lot now for a handy rifle to pack horseback or in the pickup. Lark.

it ain't funny. i had the zact same thing happen to me at black riiver, only the bear tried to take my fish. but when he tried to get me to look i kicked him. Lark.

the fat on a bear will close off a wound and they won't drop any blood, a lot of times. may bleed like heck for a few feet, and then nothing. especially with a bow. fat closes off around the arrow. i shot a bit chocolate boar with my bow while elk hunting some years ago. perfect quartering away shot. got liver, both lungs and heart. we found a little blood for about 20 yards and that was it. luckily the guy with me could hear good and heard him croakin' up the hill. we zero'd in on the noise and found him. went less than 100 yards. he had most of the arrow in his mouth where he reached back and pulled it out. i back tracked him from where he laid and there was no way you could blood trail him more than 50 feet on any either end of the trail. i've shot bears with a rifle and had the same experience. always found em, but they really seal the holes up and don't drop a lot of blood most of the time. Lark.

daylight hours. when the velvet comes off and weather cools the bulls start getting the urge, but the only thing that matters is when the cows some in heat, with coincides with weaning their calves. oh yeah, and like everything in nature, it's all tied to daylight hours. the good ol' sun does it all. Lark.

i'm surprised it ain't pink. oh wait, it's probly reversable. Lark.

i don't think it had anything to do with the hurricane, but we got about 5/8" at the rancho neglecto last night. good rain. it was purty muddy on my mornin' ride. got more rain last night than we've had combined all summer. glad it did too, i needed a shower. Lark.

yore all wrong. it's the talkin' javelina. it's all fuzzy cuz he has his stink shield on. Lark.

don't listen to gameholler. he's in prison and this is the only site they let him on after he got in all that trouble on the prison pen pal site. if he knew more about guns he wouldn't be in prison. he wouldn't o' took a 7mm/08 to a gun fight. he likes 7mm/08s because he can't take the recoil of a 9mm. they sell bedding kits at about any gunstore. they aren't hard to use. i'd just bed the bedding block to start with. you might notice a little benefit from a laminated stock, but not much. a good wood stock will work okay if it fits well. after you get the ammo figgerd out, if it ain't accurate enough, then maybe get a different stock. i'd suggest a good synthetic over a laminated one too. but i'd bet you could make the one you have work fine. one more thing, if you set jacketed bullets back .0050", they probly won't shoot well. they do that with barnes because they are so long they build up a lot of pressure. you want a jacketed bullet to be quite close to the lands. i like mine to touch. most folks say to be within .0010". a lot of folks swear by barnes, i tried em once in my .270 and lost over 200 fps and accuracy went to heck. and i've had some horrible experiences with elk running off after lung shots with em. i won't even hunt elk with somebody who uses em. the seem to just punch a hole in em and they run off. Lark.

bedding will help. or a new stock. but you need to look at your ammo and how it works in your rifles. overall cartridge length is real critical in any rifle to get optimum groups. and so is barrel twist. the .270 will be 1 in 10, like all .270's, but you need to be sure you're shooting a bullet that matches your twist in the .300. i've never seen a barnes bullet that shot real well either, when compared to jacketed lead bullets especially. the bullets are a lot longer than a jacketed bullet of the same weight and unless they've changed something in their recomendations, you have to seat them way off the lands to keep from building up too much pressure, which in turn can really affect accuracy. (overall cartridge length,again). i see they are cutting some grooves in them now to reduce barrel drag and cut down on pressure. this is gonna have some affect on the length of the bullet too. it will have to be a bit longer to get the weight. then there's the thing about everything i've ever seen shot with a barnes ran off and had to be tracked down, but i guess some folks like that. anyway, the bullet being longer could require a different twist in the twist sensitive .30 cal. depending on how your barrel is twisted you may need to go up or down in bullet weight to match things up right. i'd shoot some jacketed bullets and see how they work for sure. if you're shooting inside of 2 inches at 100 yards with a stock rifle, you're not too far off. just needs a little tweeking here and there, mostly with your ammo i'd guess. i'd bed the action and then really work on finding what ammo your rifle likes, before i'd spend a bunch on a new stock. my oldest son had a tikka .270 wsm and it shot everything excellent, once you got it loaded right. he finally settled on 100's in it because he wanted the velocity, but it shot anything we put in it incredibley well. don't have any experience with the .300 short mag, but the fact that it's a .30 caliber means it will take a little experimenting to make it shoot real tight groups. i have '06's and .300's and they all shoot well, after you figger out what they want. Lark.

arizona wildlife views, the one the azgfd puts out would be a good one. if he's a boy scout get him a subscription to boy's life. i used to have subscriptions to everything but they all got so artsy fartsy and politcally correct i gave up.

it don't matter what the weather is like, when the cows get hot, so does the huntin'. it can be hot, cold, wet, dry, windy, calm, snowy, tornados, floodin', forest fires, etc, etc, etc, the rut still happens about the same time every year. everbody always acts like elk come and go with the weather. they're still there, you just might hafta adjust your scheme some. the quakies will turn yeller, the bulls will holler and it will cool off a little. and everbody with a tag will have a good time. all the weather does is bother the hunters, the elk don't care. sharpen your broadheads, tune in your bow, learn how to cow call and you'll have a blast. my youngest has a tag and i can't wait to hit the woods. and it'll be nonstop huntin' until mid december after the archery hunt starts. and for heck's sake, don't worry about "havin' an elk tag", and the weather not bein' perfect. go huntin' and shoot a big one. but remember, if you do shoot a big one, don't put photos on here because some jerk will say it ain't that big and ya didn't shoot it right or it's crosseyed or somethin'. Lark.

i've seen magazines built to keep this from happening. my ol' .264 used to push the whole bullet back into the case a lot of times. if you use lead tipped bullets, it's something you have to live with. i've even had plastic tipped bullets get the heck deformed out of em. i've never noticed a real big problem with lead tips that have been flattened out. there has to be some, but they still seem to work acceptable. but you bend the tip of a plastic tipper, and you're libel to hit yourself. they really fly bad. the trick is to kill em with the first shot. then the rest of the shells in the mag are just extree weight. Lark.

i heard today that ted kennedy had been sober for about 48 hours. can anybody verify? Lark.

we've always had hounds. when i was still lion huntin' we had dozens. when i got outta that we still wanted a hound so we got a basset. had several of them of over many years and the last one croaked about a year ago. last winter my youngest son decided we needed another hound so he bought a rerdbone bloodhound. he's about 7 months old now and is gonna be huge. he already weighs well over 80 pounds and is real tall. and dumber than heck. one wierd thing tho, he can swim and retrieve better than my daughter's lab. he is one goofy dog. runs into things. chews on everthing. his name is dozer but it oughta be abe, because of all the huge piles o' lincoln logs he leaves in the yard. anyway, i've always tried to have a nice lawn and since i retired i've worked on it extree hard. last night i was gettin' ready to mow the lawn and i told my kid to go clean up the logs before i took off with the mower. i use a reel type mower and if you hit a fresh greasy turd it really makes a mess and smells bad. a lot of the time i just mow em up but i saw dozer all hunkered up on a fresh pile and didn't wanna hit it. so my kid got a shovel and started liftin' logs outta the yard. then he come packin' a pile over on the shovel and showed me that it had a live .357 hollowpoint all mixed up in it. i dropped some offa my shoulder holster the other day and thought i picked em all up, but i guess i missed one. the dog ate it and squeezed it out in the yard. i know that stinkin' dog did it on purpose hopin' i'd hit it with the mower and shoot myself. remember, guns don't kill people, dogs that eat ammo and crap it out in the yard do. Lark.