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Hey JLG, when will you be up there this coming week? Doing turkey day in phx? Gotta figure out my plans.

Stupid exam...I will try to make that spring hunt if you still need help. Congrats!

Heard em on my hunt down there...coyote howls and looking at the milky way seems right to me somehow.

I just read this entire thread, and nothing I saw here was bashing G&F. AZLance just stated the facts about the project. If stating the facts is "negative" or "bashing", that is ridiculous. And as far as letting the "biologists, scientists, and experts do their job", who is hindering them or stopping them? I think letting them do their jobs is how we have got to where we are now, with 22 dead sheep. I for one, hope the sheep succeed in the Catalina's, as I hope to draw a tag one day and kill a nice Ram up there. But right now, I'm not sure that will ever happen. I am referencing other threads 520. http://cpluhna.nau.edu/Places/arizona_strip.htm More reintroduction success in Az with sheep and antelope.

Az bighorns have even been transplanted and reintroduced in Tx. Glad we could help out to create more hunter "opportunity." But somehow those who care about opportunity bash the very experts attrmpting to create more hunting opportunity. Color me amazed and confused. http://www.texasbighornsociety.org/index.php/about-tbs/history

For those interested in sheep and actual peer reviewed papers, this is a pretty good bibliography. Even has papers related to sheep reintroduction criteria etc. http://library.sandiegozoo.org/factsheets/bighorn_sheep/bighorn_biblio.htm

And for a little on sheep... http://www.nwf.org/wildlife/wildlife-library/mammals/bighorn-sheep.aspx Notice reintroduction efforts helped to save them from extinction. Point is, let the biologists, scientists, and experts do their jobs. All this forum seems to do is bash, complain, and armchair quarterback every decision AZGFD makes without any thought to the future. The entitlement mentality is overwhelming. Certainly, reintroductions of sheep are costly and more than likely will result in the deaths of some animals. However, the longterm gains must also be considered. Notice not ALL the sheep were introduced at once. This is a process aimed at controlling predation and restoring a huntable population in the future. I have noticed that as of late you all haven't have many sheep mortalities to cheer about in this forum...perhaps the plan is working and you fail to see it or acknowledge it. Personally, I hope the reintroduction is a grand success. I will trust the experts until then.

Or this one... http://www.azgfd.gov/h_f/game_elk.shtml

Apparently it is... Perhaps you have forgotten about elk in Az and their transplant history http://www.coueswhitetail.com/forums/topic/19335-arizonas-elk/?do=findComment&comment=316267 First post will help out.

How so?

And?

I can't edit on my phone for some reason. 14 sheep is right. Got my articles mixed up before an exam. My apologies about the error.

Probably busy with the kid and all...

30 more sheep went into the unit... http://tucson.com/news/local/jack-hanna-helps-release-bighorns-into-catalinas/article_a0b65332-70c7-11e4-b2b4-f71d480e0969.html Looks like Jack Hanna even got in on the action.

Come on over and give JLG a visit!

They look fantastic! Made in China?

No worries on that one! It was an epic story I hope you post up. Teamwork came through on that deer. It was a great hunt that I can humbly say I had a small part in...and you weren't the only one who beat up my auditory system that hunt! Lol

Hey JLG, Do you have any blankets?

Was thinking about it...but I have regained my hearing

JLG is g2g folks. I find myself glassing with him a lot!

Well, isn't this sweet... Best of luck and I hope ya find 'em! Good guy to deal with for all you cwt folks...

Remember there is more to 33 than just peppersauce and what has been mentioned...

Did ya get me some? Jk

Pm sent

Wow...just wow.