DesertBull

Yes, you are correct, but if you have noticed the developers are trying hard to change that. Every election, they put up ballot initiatives to ease the restrictions. They usually disguise it as a "help conserve nature" law, when in actuality it is nothing more that a land swap or power shift that will result in more golf coarses and tract homes and the public is left with 10,000 acres of waterless creosote flats in exchange.

NICE! Congrats.

That does looks like she has the squirts.

We have always had commissioners appointed by the Gov. That's how they become commissioners. We need to elect a different Governor.

That is a great story. Congrats. God Bless.

There are no restrictions in AZ as far as scopes, sabots, exposed primers, etc. However, ther might be some restrictions on muzzleloader design in Ill. I have a Knight and it shoots good. I do not like the little plastic jackets you have to use on the primers though. If I were buying a new ML'er, it would be a Thompson Encore.

Maybe there are more big deer being killed in the earlier hunts because there are more people in the field?

SHAAAA-WING! NICE!

YOU SUCK DOUG!

I'm not a biologist. I just know that the ADA spent a lot of money doing a deer count on the Kaibab last year and the numbers they came up with and the number the G&F had were way different. Seems I remember that the G&F uses models to determine deer estimates and not actual counts. http://www.azdeer.org/kaibab_article.htm http://www.azdeer.org/kaibab_trip_summary.htm

Thank you, I appreciate that.

From what I have read and heard, the way the G&F estimates deer numbers is a joke. If you do not have a reasonably accurate count, how can you calculate the correct number of tags to be issued.

Tru-Ball Diamond Pro

4 years ago I lost a Garmin GPS on Red Butte in unit 9. Yesterday, while driving up there, I was thinking about that and wondering if anyone ever found it. I was scouting for a client at the time, and had to hike back to the truck, drive all the way back to Flagstaff and buy a new one, then drive back and start scouting again. So, I was scouting for a new client this weekend and I parked on the south side of the mountain and started hiking up. I usually park on the east side and hike up a ridge that tapers in that direction, but I decided to take a different route this time. As I was hiking, I thought about the GPS again, and at that precise moment, I looked down, and there it was. AMAZING!

I think that late hunt is not until December. Should be enough snow by then to bring some more elk into the unit. It is an easy draw.

Did you guys see any good bulls? I have had a couple people tell that the late elk hunt there is under rated.

Cool! Too bad you could not have waited around for that deer killing furball to come back for breakfast.

" We probably saw the same one.

Nice! I have been putting in for that unit too, but no luck yet. Was this the last hunt in 2B or the 2nd to last hunt? I think they have 2 hunts in November. Side note: I saw a nice buck, similar to the ones in your pics, in unit 9 (AZ) last week and he was rutting like a college boy on spring break.

My only real beef was with the cow tags at $100. Is an archery cow tag in unit 19 really worth the same as an early season rifle bull tag in unit 1? CHEERS~!

No hard feelings here. I was just talking out my ***. I just like the Gov out of my checkbook as much as possible.

You gonna put a Copper sticker on that Horse?

Saddle up? What, your sheep?

Not quite, Nancy, but good try.