DesertBull

Way to go! If karma is real, that dog is quail pointin' fool!

3 feet of that is neck.

Greg McBride at Trails End in Gilbert.

Trophy Ridge Drop Zone.

You know, as well as I, that the meeting will be in some far corner of the state, on a Wednesday, at 8:00 am.

"Ya officer that white crater in the ground that my stand is exactly 20 yards from is one of those naturally occurring salt craters. Yea it is right next to that naturally occurring Apache corn. " Are you being serious or just being a funny man? A great majority of water sources in AZ has salt on it or near it placed by ranchers so if I choose to sit water with salt present that doesn't mean I placed it for the SOLE purpouse of hunting. There is naturall salt all over the dadgum place so I guess I can't hunt those areas as well. heck I guess if I kill a buck and there is salt within a mile of me I better get my buck and get the heck out of there before they ticket me. Well officer I am sorry this is my first year hunting and I didn't know that there hole in the dirt was chuck full of salt and minerals! Why are you giving me a ticket? No when I shot that buck from 200 yards ( first time hunting this unit) I did not realize or KNOW that someone had placed salt there on that ridge that I HAVE NEVER HUNTED BEFORE!!! NO I AM NOT A LIAR! Why are you giving me a ticket??? O shucks my physically handicap friend can't sit that water hole with easy access because there is salt on it or near it. Yes officer I know my tree stand is over this water source because I placed it here but I did not put that salt out that has all those cattle track around it. Why am I getting a ticket. So I guess maybe you can sit the naturall salt and the salt put out by ranchers but just don't put out salt under a tree stand off a game trail. They won't have a hard time proving/enforcing the Apache corn though. Like I said way to many variables! IMO You don't think they know that? In 2-3 years they will start the process of stopping us from hunting water too. That's what I'm talking about. I could give two rips about corn or salt, it's the progressive regulations that have me deeply concerned.

Yeah, not only that, but the mutt was probably licking his butt two minutes before sticking his tongue in your mouth.

look at our newest commissioner. His pet project is Condor restoration. Which means no lead ammo and no humans in the Grand Canyon.

Great looking fish! Especially the rainbow. Just put the deposit down on the rental house in Ketchikan. July 24th - 29th. Now to find a charter. If any of you want to go to Alaska, but it seems out of your reach, here is a helpful tip. Bank of America has an Alaska Airlines CC. For every dollar you spend, you get 1 mile. Plus, you get 5,000 mile bonus every year and a 2 for 1 coupon that lets you buy 1 ticket at full price and another on the same flight for $50. We buy everything we can, gas, groceries, etc on the card then just transfer the money from our checking account to the credit card. 2-3 times per month. No interest charges if you pay it off in 30 days or less. In 3 years, we have racked up 120,000 miles, have a zero balance on the card. That's enough miles for 6 round trip tickets anywhere Alaska Airlines flies in the Continental US and Alaska. At $600 a ticket, that is a huge savings.

Couple of questions for the experts What weight rod/line do you get the most use out of here in AZ? I'm thinking a 4 or 5 weight but if I wanted to go after bass or pike once in awhile a 6 weight might be better. I am going to Alaska this summer, can I fish it with a 5 or 6 weight? Probably trout and dolly's mostly but I'm sure the sockeyes will be available too.

I know of no ballot initiatives to stop hunting water, bait or salt either, so evidently there is a whole school of red herring swimming in these waters.

LOL!

Well, since you chose to turn this personal.... First off, I have no "personal" relationships with anyone at G&F. In fact, I've met the person I cited as a source face-to-face only once, and that was years ago. Any other contact with him has been via phone for research purposes either for management or issues such as this. If anything, you should be dang thankful that I try to provide as much FACTUAL information as possible. And I certainly have no "political agenda" that needs to be "leveraged." I leave that sort of stuff to politicians. There is absolutely nothing arrogant about trying to convince anyone of something. If there was, those here trying to convince others that baiting is a wholesome family activity to be enjoyed by all are no less arrogant. If you wish to support baiting, knock yourself out. Second, it seems you're saying that you're allowed that "one voice," but I'm not allowed my "one voice." If so, thatis arrogance at its finest. I have bought hunting/fishing licenses every year over the last 45 and many tags in this state. That alone qualifies me to have as much say on any issue as you do. The members of this forum are but one VERY small segment of total hunters in this state and a minuscule segment of the general population. That's something to keep in mind when suggesting that hunting rules/laws should be passed only with the majority's blessing. Other states have already discovered the results of that foolhardy notion. Remember that, especially if G&F doesn't put the bait ban in effect; it could be coming to ballot near you as an initiative soon thereafter and be a LOT more restrictive than one G&F puts on the books. And you can bet more than 50% of the voters -- including those "nonhunters" who aren't supposed to have a say -- will pass it. Pogo once said..."We have met the enemy... and he is us." Have a great day! -TONY So, what you are saying is that it is better for us to take it away from ourselves than to let others take it away from us? Well then, why don't we just go ahead and turn in our guns and hounds too and save us all a bunch of time and money? And how can an outright ban of any substance used to attract game be anymore restrictive? I agree with the quote you gave. We are our own worst enemy. We give away our rights and priviledges too easy for fear it might offend someone.

Public outcry my ***. And how many tags and hunting licenses do the "non-hunting" public buy? ZERO! We are asked to pay more and more for tags and licences, and continually get less and less in return. Unless you call getting kicked in the sack or stabbed in the back something in return.

I have a poll for ya. After they force this through, what will they go after next? 1. Hunting man made water sources. 2. Hunting with hounds. 3. Outlaw ultra-mags and other super long range rifles. 5. all electronic devices, including radios, range finders, cameras, etc 4. All of the above. Have you noticed that the same people that are all gung ho on telling others what are ethical hunting practices are also the ones that have no problem keeping every two track and goat road open so they they can drive right into their hunting areas instead of having to walk? What gives with that? If you pack a 5 lb bag of salt and a camera 3 miles off the road and check it 2 times per month, you are cheating, but if you drive your F250 10 miles off the main road and right up to the ridge you plan on hunting opening morning, you're a true sportsman.

You just don't want anyone to hear your Culture Club's Greatest Hits cd playing.

Say good bye to lead ammo.

"Ya officer that white crater in the ground that my stand is exactly 20 yards from is one of those naturally occurring salt craters. Yea it is right next to that naturally occurring Apache corn. " and 30 yards from the unnatural water source placed here by the game and fish department that attracts, habituates, and domesticates game animals every bit as much as a friggen salt brick.

Do you know any history on the dog? Was he turned in by the owner or just lost?

http://forums.coueswhitetail.com/forums/in...c=5618&st=0 Just as I thought.

40 is the new 30. Happy Birthday!

Bull poop. 150 archery kills in ONE UNIT? What was that Mark Twain said about statistics?

It's getting harder and harder to tell the difference between the two.

Tony, What? You mean to tell me that other states don't allow bating? Holly molly I thought the Arizona Game and Fish was really stepping away from the norm if it was going to ban baiting. The states you mentioned seem to be pretty good company... Thanks for the post. Redman It was the Antis that pushed for banning baiting AND USE OF HOUNDS in Colorado and Oregon, not hunters. If you don't think the use of dogs will the next thing they go after here, once the baiting is taken away, you are not paying attention. These people are not stupid, they know that they cannot get away with the banning of all hunting, but they can take a little bit away every year until our numbers eventually dry up and die. WAKE UP!

I watched Extreme Bulls 5 yesterday. Very good, as always. Not on par with #3 and #4 IMO, but still good. This one has more gun / ML'er hunts than the others.