DesertBull

A class action suit against G&F should be pursued if this happens. You know that is what Cabela's is going to threaten if they are denied, why not us? Maybe Lark could be our lawyer?

money talks and ..well....you know the rest.

Screw that. They would not give you or I a BP if we were late. Too bad, so sad.

An awesome, jaw dropping buck, regardless of score. Don't let the tape measure sour your achievment. Score cards are for golf and it looks as though you just shot a hole in one, enjoy it.

It might have cost them $100K, but if they take those apps, they'll have 2x's that in lawyer fees when the law suits roll in. They should have asked that EVERYONE have an extra day to deliver as soon as it happened, just like what happened last year when they pulled the plug on the internet apps. Everyone got extra time, not just one group.

I've never heard anything else about it either. I was wondering if that rack was one of the sets going to be sold at the ISE this weekend by the G&F.

Hurry up and release the results, then it will be too late to even matter.

600 sounds a lot more reasonable.

Yeah...me too....ON AN ELK!

I don't get it. Why would the gunslinger want to kiss Lark directly on the ***?

WOW! Great find! Too bad he is dead though.

OUCH. Bad news for the kid. Painful series of shots ahead for him.

Good news for us, but I think I have a hard time believing that Cabela's accounts for 1 of every 4 elk applications. I'll take anything that increases my odds though.

Ok, so what is your take on this stance and who is pushing this amendment?

Done

Have you seen the Movie, Into the Wild, yet? Pretty good, but not a lot of Alaska. Holds pretty true to the book though, unlike a lot of movies.

Hard to say, each state has their own issues to deal with. Some states are almost 100% private property, some only have 1 or 2 species of game to manage. I give them a A+ on fending off the land owner tag issues. I give them a C- on communication and relationships with the ones paying the bills...US! On dealing with the predator issues and anti-hunters in general. They don't seem to put up much of a fight. Maybe it's not a public fight though, maybe it goes on mostly behind the scenes, so I won't judge to harshly on that. Seems to me, that when most of the people moving here were from the north or midwest, there were not as many social issues regarding hunting and fishing to deal with. Now that a lot of those moving here are from Cali, Washington, Oregon, etc. things have turned more politically correct. Overall, I think the Dept does a great job. Can't really say the same thing about the commission though.

I know the Commission was not happy when the the 10% NR cap was made a state law instead of a G&F rule.

Does anyone know if there was a group such as SFW, ADA, RMEF, etc that started this push for the amendment and which groups support / oppose it?

Not if they read any of my comments on here! Thanks everyone.

Good, it might be the only input we give them that they don't stick in the crap can.

WARNING- OFF TOPIC Hey Bownut, Brett Fav-rah retired today, FYI.

Maybe he thought it was an air freshner.

You know, as well as I, that the meeting will be in some far corner of the state, on a Wednesday, at 8:00 am. http://www.gf.state.az.us/inside_azgfd/mee..._schedule.shtml The april meeting is in Phoenix, every time I have went it has been on Saturday when this stuff is discussed and public input is allowed. I know before on some issues they ask for public input on a thurday at 2:00 p.m. at the fairgrounds and they let you know wednesday at noon, This should be different. The Animal rights people will be there, they always are, and I would bet if there is blood in the water they will attack as well. That poor deer just wanted to get a drink and BANG bambi is dead, or it just wanted a little salt and BANG bambi was murdered. I personally don't give a dang what these people think, I haven't protested them picking soy beans or killing all of those plants that are minding their own buisiness, so I think they should stop protesting what we do, but they won't because they think how they live is how everyone should live, where as I think to each his own. If we allowed the world to not hunt and fish, and to not raise animals for food, and not manage them at all we might as well plan on the end of the human race, which would make a lot of those types happy. Of course they also believe in live and let live and that the animals would not harm a human if there was no threat (Tim Treadwell), there is probably a huge list of people that are attacked by wild animals and I would be willing to bet that the majority said they didn't know it would happen. The last time I checked wild animals are WILD, and the only thing we have over most predators is Brains, but listening to some of these idiots we could argue the fact. Sharks, crocs, and gators kill people we build boats, lions, bears, tigers, and wolves kill people we use weapons, or we domesticated some and used them as we see fit, because a human against most animals in a straight up fight is getting killed. The funny thing is that hunters do more than anybody in the World to protect species, either as a huntable species or as something that benifits from our hunting dollars and restoration efforts to save habitat, and restore others. That is the one for the upcoming hunting season. I believe they are supposed to have a separate time for public input on new rules, as Outdoorwriter outlined in a previous post.

http://www.y2y.net/ Another scary group. What is even more frightening is that a lot of hunters believe these groups are doing great things. Some even say, " I'd give up my right to hunt the y2y, to know that at least some place in the lower 48 besides Yellowstone won't be developed.. There are other places to hunt." http://www.monstermuleys.info/cgi-bin/dcfo...umID5&omm=0 Something tells me, if one of these groups came up with a "survey", the G&F would fall over themselves trying to implement their recommendations, unlike their response to the the ADA provided, which basically got archived in the round file.