MuleyMan

ROFLMAO! Relax dude.............dang..........this is just a forum. From this..........you really have no idea what I'm made of.........particularly my hunting ability. I now have my entertainment for tonite..............and for the next few months.............holy cow.........LOL I love it when people read my posts........

You are putting words and outrageous emotions into my mouth. I expect nothing less from Arizona dudes who can't drive down the interstate cuz it snowed a little bit. I only stated that I don't think he was professionally qualified or able to save me or anyone else. Good thing he only received some of my tax money. Didn't say that his death was un-tragic or that his family won't be impacted. Contrary to what you suggest.............time of year doesn't magnify his death. The suggestion was made FIRST that he was a firefighter. This implies some holier-than-thou importance and greatness cuz of his profession. Would his wife & kids suffer differently if he was a plumber??? Also.......would his death be less important if he was a single man with no kids??? Please respond here.........

Dang Lance..........great butchering lessons and pics. But..............has the quad in the first pic been driven off-road? Shame on you............

Doug definitely knows expensive optics. Turn the bino/eyepiece downward when brushing so that the grit falls and doesn't scratch. Love the Zeiss spray bottle lens cleaner and wipes. DO NOT use Windex.

Ditto, ditto, and ditto.....LOL!!! Been waiting for your call for years! My number is 928.864.8185. Can't remember your old username..................nor where I can find your useful, contributory, picture-laden posts? Been looooooooooong waiting........ I don't know about you, but any fireman stupid enough to camp under a tree in a predicted winter blizzard I don't want saving me.............must be another Arizona thing.......

Cowboy up and toughen up you Arizona dudes. Sheeeesh. A few inches of snow and everyone falls apart. This ain't badass country.........it's warm and tame and for the weak. You should be able to handle this with ease like the Wyoming folks do! It's the City folk that are complicating this run-o-the-mill, western US storm. I can't believe the interstate blockages and accidents and such for this small weather event! Everyone in Wyoming prepares for and drives an unplowed highway to work.............why 8 hours to travel 45-minutes here?

Dang, has somebody been drinkin' tonite.....LOL!!!

Only cuz gang hunting and the promotion of artificial successes has driven me to it........LOL. I remember when Mike Eastman started his "Mike Eastman's Outdoorsmen" magazine in 1987. He wanted to create a forum for the average electrician, plumber, etc... to tell his personal, I-did-it-myself story. He wanted the DIY hunter to be recognized and to be heard. He also ultimately wanted to make $$$ from it. The Eastman's Journal spawned the current trophy hunting magazine/DVD craze that includes MuleyCrazy, Trophy Hunter, Mossback etc..... Mike has completely deviated from his original goal....and is now a large part of the problem. We now have a full array of trophy hunting magazines/DVD's that fully and completely promote gang hunting and do-it-at-any-cost and not individualism and personal achievement and success. Ryan Hatch and Doyle Moss are the ring-leaders in this unbelievable movement toward the destruction of hunting (Oh wait....ain't we already there?). Why in the world would anyone admire that???

Disingenuous=What trophy hunting has become. Disagree with your desire to recognize guides, tho. A guide who is paid for size (which is all of 'em) WILL live and work for instant gratification and doesn't care about a state or region being a top game or trophy game producer in the long term. I think that being "short-sighted" is a box that must be checked on the application form for a guides license in this and every other western state.

hmmm, personal satisfaction is awesome. Comradery is too..... I hunt alone usually but lets face it, shareing the hunt is awesome as well. heck, they ever find that bin ladin dude? Maybe a single hit man could do it? lmao No ones holding you down are they? lol. stick around , IT'S A GAS!!! I'm going to bed now.........I think. Buddies, cousins, and brothers-in-law all have a place in a person's life. And that place is...........at a birthday party or a family reunion or maybe watching an NFL game on the big screen having pizza and beers. True, legitimate trophy hunting is about gaining the personal satisfaction that it was only you against the animal.........and that you overcame all of the challenges and difficulties and whacked a great animal all by your lonesome. That's what trophy hunting is!!! How in the world can anyone claim personal satisfaction or any kind of accomplishment with 15 people involved??? By definition, when a hunter brings in others...........he/she is admitting that they are not up to the task and cannot succeed alone. So......if you are one of these............spare me your field photos and magazine articles representing fraudulent, deceptive success and stop searching for my approval and respect and awe. You ain't gonna get it cuz you have to EARN that from me. Overcome the animal and the challenges YOURSELF............or stay home and enjoy your beer.

Thanks for this topic............have you been reading my mind (or maybe my thread)??? Like your sarcasm SbD....... Guys..........this topic is about gang hunting. Or rather...........anti-gang hunting. Personally, I would feel like a no-good loser coward chickensheet if I needed 8 guides, cousins and brothers-in-law to find a decent animal. Personal satisfaction seems to be a feeling that has been lost in modern day trophy hunting. The end doesn't justify the means! Dang, this forum has more than a few trouble makers. I'm not sure how much longer I can hang around here..............

I can't seem to find the multi-quote button. Doug, my disappointment is with the amount of human traffic and selfish impacts that I've seen in recent years on the Strip. It used to be wild and woolly country, but no more. I realize that this trip was just after a 10 day hunting season, but the use was very obvious. What used to be faint, overgrown 2-tracks now had heavy usage. Faint 2-tracks that I wouldn't have considered driving on 15 years ago had significant quad and full-size vehicle usage. I saw several new 2-tracks too..........very disappointing. New camping spots were prevalent, too. Could this overuse be from gang hunting...........with 8 or 9 hunters with 5 vehicles for every one tag holder on the Strip??? The BLM is now aggressively citing people for driving off road all over the west..........looooong overdue. I know a guy who just received a $175 ticket in Wyoming. He whined............I applauded! I would never considering cutting up a tree to put up a manmade treestand on public land. This comes with age and maturity. The wooden tree stand looked recent. Keep in mind that 13A had over-the-counter archery tags until 3 or 4 years ago. It was getting hit HARD by archers.........the reason for the now limited quota archery hunts. Note the trail cam post in the first water trough pic. It ain't a fence post. These things ought to be called "water tank cams", since few actually use them on game trails. Using them on game trails would actually require that...............people hiked more than 20 yards from the truck...........and.........knew enough about the game to find a likely game trail. The commercialization of big muleys by the outfitters, trophy hunting magazines, and DVD makers has ruined some precious areas in the west. Not to mention trophy hunting in general. The end doesn't justify the means! Do it ALONE with NO IMPACT...........or stay home.

They retail for $5k. These are the Fluorite Prominar ones, not the standard ones, which are less expensive. I think Outdoorsmans may be offering a discount tho.....check with them. I've done substantial business with them for many years. They are great people to deal with. I looked thru Floyd's bino in their parking lot first. The tripod and head were $380.

Spent some time in one of my favorite places on earth over the holiday weekend. Great trip! Saw a dozen bucks in 3 days. Gotta love the nightlife in Kanab after a long day out in the hills too, LOL. Took some unused trades to Outdoorsmans (Amanda.....aren't they a sponsor here?) a few weeks ago and left with this TERRIFIC Kowa High Lander Bino!!! The tripod is the Bogen 055XV and the pan head is the massive Bogen 501HDV.................prolly the only setup stout enough to hold these heavyweights. The glass is the Fluorite 32x and it is terrific! Muuuuuch more clarity than I ever imagined. I highly recommend these to anyone who is considering them. Just make sure they will fill a void in your glassing needs and hunting methods before robbing a bank to afford them. Wow! I may get the 21x eyepieces as well. The individual focus eyepieces will prolly take some getting used to. Check out the great, brushy big buck country in the background. Little bucks might make a little rub.............or they might make a big rub. But.............big bucks ALWAYS make a big rub! This first one looks pretty serious, the second one not. Looking across Kanab Creek at the West Kaibab. Across Antelope Valley with Yellowstone Mesa in the distance. The lower end of Hack canyon where it enters Kanab Creek. A terrific isolated, somewhat hidden trough ruined by either an outfitter or a hunter. I am sorely disappointed to see hunters leaving this selfish damage..............especially 50 miles from the pavement. I'll save my trail cam comments for another post. So much for the wilderness experience and leaving it "like it was". The commercialization of big muleys has ruined hunting them. Too many hunters now believe that the end justifies the means. It doesn't. I was here 15 years ago.....this crap wasn't. A typical water catchment on the Strip. Again, note the ugly, butchered tree resulting in a ground blind for the selfish, destructive outfitter or hunter.........50 miles from the pavement. The second pic shows that this drinker is VERY heavily used. 15 years ago..........this one didn't have much sign. Seems to me that there are more deer in 13A these days. Looking west off Mt. Logan into Whitmore Canyon and ultimately the Grand Canyon. The deer on Logan seem like "park" deer. This is another 3.5 year old buck on Trumbull that let me get close to him. I spotted a 170" buck with his doe at the top of this first ridge near the heavier PJ's at the top about 1.5 miles away as the crow flies. These are a terrific bino! I took this buck there years ago. I try not to visit the Strip without somehow contributing to the deer herd...........

Actually, I better clarify a bit. I did get out my checkbook for this tag.....................Oouuucchhhh! I have 12 points for elk in Colorado..........which won't ever get me diddly in my lifetime. On another note...........I whacked this buck in the same unit in 2000 after a summer of scouting and wondering about the great bulls I was seeing in the unit.