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I had a bear come up a tree with me while archery deer hunting a waterhole. It was bear season and I could have arrowed him numerous times but wasn't interested in killing a bear. That all changed when he was 6 feet below the bottoms of my feet.

Agreed! I own a pair of top end Nikons. The EL's were the only glass that had an edge on them and it was splitting hairs. I looked through all the top end glass too with money not being a factor. I chose Nikon over the EL's because of the eye relief with glasses.

This a giant headlong leap into full blown socialism. If they can mandate this what is to stop them from mandating whatever they want? With this ruling that you are required to have healthcare they will be in control of you when this legislation is fully implemented. My girlfriend and I attended a class on the constitution a while back. Their opinion was that with all of the amendments attached to the Constitution that Obamacare would be upheld as constitutional. The article we have today is so far removed from the original document that it isn't even close to being the same.

Have you tried clearing cookies before you start over?

I have shot a bunch of both fixed and mechanical broadheads. Some are good, some are not so good. If you put any decent broadhead in the right spot you are going to be tagging out. I have been shooting Slick Tricks for a long time and have no bitches about them. They are accurate at extreme bowhunting ranges. They are an awesome, forgiving and accurate broadhead. I changed from mechanical broadheads to Slick Tricks and don't plan on changing anytime soon.

I spoke with a guy in the know who for obvious reasons will remain anonymous, that these people expected it to die but plan on pushing it through when the uproar has died and people have all but forgotten about it. This thing will probably never be truly dead until legislation is passed prohibiting it. I don't know if that is possible but if there are sympathetic legislators it might not be a bad idea to get something passed that will put this issue to bed forever.

They are just trying to get everyone off their backs and figured this would buy them time. I imagine it did. Nice move by the Dept. I won't fall for it again

I too was impressed with her willingness to research and learn when I first contacted her but she has had plenty of time to do so. She knew about this thing when I first emailed her. I am hoping I am wrong but I suspect she already has her mind made up.

I exchanged several emails with her when this first started. I think she had her mind already made up before she was contacted by any constituents. I sent her several links and arguments against this bill but was sure that it was not going to do any good. It would appear I was right. It's too bad she has taken this stance. I vote, my family votes, my friends vote and we have long memories.

There is a series of meetings that I am urging anyone that cares about hunting access to attend. If what is being proposed gets before Congress and is approved there is going to be huge pieces of units 44A, 42, 41, and 39 that will become wilderness or access restricted areas. And this is probably only the start of it. hunter74 and myself attended one of these tonight. Please, if you care about hunting access in these areas I urge you strongly to let your voice be heard. Here is a link to meeting times and places. http://www.sonoranheritage.org/news/rel ... ation_plan Another link to maps of proposed new wilderness and NCA areas. http://www.sonoranheritage.org/our_campaign/maps There is a need for ATV reform and some protection of our natural resources but IMO this proposal is going way to far at this time. If we don't get involved now we'll wake up and wonder what happened.

Just wanted to give a quick update on the Buckeye meeting. My girlfriend created a Face Book event about this meeting and sent it out to her friends. It went viral and a fantastic crowd of pissed off hunters, ATV'ers, cattlemen and outdoors people turned out in really good numbers to let their voices be heard. They may go ahead and get their agenda through Congress but there are a couple of politically connected people that attended and are dead set against this. Maybe there is hope after all.

Ryan, it is true that the contact info is to the organization pushing this thing. I asked them about it and they said they were interested in public opinion. I think that is BS. However, they are wanting to go before Congress with this and will undoubtedly want to show the public's overwhelming support. I and others I know let our feelings be known to them. If you attend a meeting they will bring up hunters as being conservationists and generally in favor of this proposal. There was a biologist on their staff at the meeting and she brought this up a couple of times. While I am in total agreement that there needs to be restrictions with enforcement in place there is no way that I can support a proposal like this. It is way too restrictive and does an end around the normal processes of implementing a protocol. I think what I and hunter74 are doing is trying to raise awareness of what is happening. These people are driven and well funded. They need to be watched and taken seriously. I think the time to contact a congressional representative will be when this actually gets before Congress should that happen. As to what G&F in general think about this, I don't know but it was brought to my attention by a WM that I know. Since then I spoke with another friend that is in the Dept. Both of them are opposed to this and recommend that hunters get involved in the process at this level.

Here is contact info. http://www.sonoranheritage.org/contact

K9, that is exactly what is going on here under the guise of protecting our heritage as they call it. They are connecting the dots and locking us out if we allow it.

They are wanting to link existing wilderness areas together creating huge tracts of land that would be accessible by foot or horseback. Then with the creation of NCA's, much of the prime hunting habitat in these areas would not be accessed by motorized vehicle, or if allowed there would be only a handful of roads that could be driven on. If you read their propaganda it sounds good but I am not willing to give up access to public land. The BLM and their travel management plans will take care of much of the perceived problem. I brought this up but their fear is that it gives the BLM the option of coming back and revising things. If Congress gets hold of it and passes it then it is set in stone and highly unlikely that it would ever revert back. This is just the beginning I think. It was pointed out that there are still many parts of western AZ that are not designated wilderness and should be. Hunters are notorious about not letting their voices be heard. We need to at the very least let our feelings be known. These people are driven and apparently have the resources to at least get the ball rolling in their direction IMO. Here are the remaining meetings times and places. Thursday Nov 10th, 7-9 PM Wickenburg Community Center 175 E. Swilling Wickenburg, AZ 85390 Tuesday Nov 15th, 7-9 PM Surprise Regional Chamber of Commerce 16126 N. Civic Center Plaza Surprise, AZ 85374 Thursday Nov 17th, 7-9 PM Buckeye Chamber of Commerce 508 E. Monroe Ave. Buckeye, AZ 85326

I had a lion cross right in front of me too. I know the local rancher and told him. He was going to get some dogs in there as he was having lion problems with cattle. I was kind of surprised at the amount of bear sign. Last time I hunted there I saw nothing. This time there was bear sign nearly everywhere I hunted. I got farther north at the end of the hunt just to see if conditions there were similar. It was a lot greener and we saw a couple of good bucks hanging in trees. Better luck next time, maybe. And even though it was dry it is still some beautiful country.

I've always considered myself an accomplished mule deer hunter but just hunted 5 days straight during the muzzy hunt and didn't see one buck. I was on the extreme southern end of the hunt area and don't know think that I have ever had such a hard time finding deer. It has been a few years since I hunted there and was wondering if this was the norm or if the dry conditions and predators are taking a toll on the deer numbers. Or maybe it is just my lack of hunting skills. Whatever the reason it was one tough hunt.

I think most of you guys missed the glory years of unit 42 from many years ago. 190+ bucks were not that uncommon during the general hunts. Hunter over crowding was not an issue then either although up to 600 permits were given out. There were deer widespread across the unit in good numbers. We had a palo verde tree in our camping spot that we hung over 60 deer in during that time. Today there is about half that many permits given out and hunter over crowding in many areas. Good luck to you tag holders.

I've had this hunt several times. It can be a very tough hunt but if you stay after it you can get onto some great bucks. I used to center my time on 42 because I grew up there but it is beginning to get more pressure than I like. I have a friend that had the tag last year. We hunted in 39. He killed a beautiful 4x4 that pushed 170 and blew an opportunity on his buck's buddy. Another guy took that one a few days later. He grossed 193. I agree with ruthunter. Southwest Hunting Adventures is as good as they get when it comes to finding monster desert muleys. Travis and Troy know their stuff.

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I've got a PSE Bow Madness XL, 27-30" draw length, 70lbs, Vapor Trail string. I am selling the bare bow for $375. Also have a Hoyt Vectrix, 30" draw, 70 lbs with Vapor Trail string and cables, new cams and limbs. I have a new Vapor Trail string still in the package that comes with it. Asking $375 for the bare bow. I have accessories for both bows and could work out a price for them if wanted.

One thing that I keep seeing is that State Trust Land is public land. It is not and governed by a different set of rules.

I don't post on here often but felt the need to call for prayer for the people of Japan. The horror that those in the stricken area must be feeling is something that I can't fathom. Although I am one of those apocalyptic Bible thumpers and think that what has happened is a sign of where we are in history, I believe God does care for both the believer and the nonbeliever. Pray for them as a nation and people. Pray for the success of those that are laying their lives on the line to save others. Pray that out of this horrendous disaster that something good can and will come from it.

Here's an email I received from the unit 42 WM concerning a water project this week. I am going to attach a link to a map. If you will click on the link it should take you to the webpage with the map. Click on it and it should enlarge itself otherwise it is hard to read. Hey Bruce, I don’t know if you got the word from Travis yet but we are doing that rebuild of catchment 598 starting next Wednesday afternoon (2nd) thru Sunday (if it takes that long). You’re welcome to come out and help if you are not busy. Thanks, Craig Heath Wildlife Manager III Arizona Game & Fish Wickenburg South 623-882-2140 cheath@azgfd.gov Link to map http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.php?photo=714690&ppuser=23557

Are you looking for a bare bow or one already set up? I have a PSE BowMadness XL I've considered selling.