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Isn't that how most threads on this board go? Or turn into a pissing match.

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I see your point. Leave it like it was or go for a total ban.

Same as trail cameras.......wildllife watcher, problem solved

Sorry to get off track but here's some more info on State Trust Land Lands leased for agriculture, mining, or military use are not open for recreational use and are usually marked with a sign. Motorized access is granted as long as you don’t stop. Access may be closed altogether. Lots of info here. I think most of us are in some type of violation at some time https://www.azbackroads.com/information/the-facts-about-the-arizona-state-trust-land-permit/

https://www.azstateparks.com/trails-on-state-trust-land

Didn't say that. It is leased. And it is not public unless the laws have changed recently.

What does that mean? If they are on private property and he denies public access yet allows family or friends to hunt them what is that to anyone. Its not like it's high fence. The 40 deer Desertguide is talking about is likely tied into a poaching ring in Harquahala Valley some years ago when the produce farming was at it's peak. There was a couple of guys that were commercially selling venison for a portion of what those farm workers could buy beef. They took a heavy toll on the deer herds before they were stopped.

This. ^^^^^^^^ After what happened last year following the shutdown of Covid19 it will never be the same. Add in the loss of winter archery hunts and it will be a cluster this winter in the open units.

One other thing......many cattle ranches have huge chunks of state trust land. That is not public land as a lot of guys think it is. Sorry for getting off topic. I think the trail camera issue is absurd and unenforceable. There should have been an outright ban or a season.

Having been involved in farming and cattle most of my life I understand the attitude of many cattlemen. A$$holes coming in and cutting fences, trash, shooting holes in water tanks, off road issues and general "I could give a rip" attitudes. I agree that some cattlemen could be less confrontational but it only takes a couple of incidences to shut down chunks of land to the public. Much of it is leased but there are also private property issues. Many cattle ranches are checkerboard. One year during deer season I had guys driving across fields and ditches chasing deer. When we went in to pick cotton in one field we found 6 bucks that had been shot and unrecovered. Pulling pieces of a two week old dead buck out of a cottonpicker head wasn't my idea of fun. Stuff like that doesn't exactly endear the farmer/rancher to the public.

Things have changed and left me behind. Didn't even know they had such a thing

I drew a 5BS archery tag. I plan on heading up there the week of the 26th just to get reacquainted with the unit. I haven't hunted there in about 6 years.

Hey Donnie good old buddy! You know you can tell me where they are LOL!

I didn't follow this today but from the comments I am guessing they banned them yet left it so anyone but hunters can hang one? If so that is the dumbest thing I ever heard. I was for a ban but this is absolutely one of their finer moments of idiocy. Totally unenforceable IMO.

Patience Andrew, They be coming.

My hunting partner and his wife are doing exactly that.

If you sell the capital gains is different between coins and bouillon.

Palomar and San Diego Jam knots are my favorites. If you double the line on the SD Jam it is as good a knot as there is.

I sold a chunk of real estate and bought physical gold when it was $450 an ounce. My then financial advisor told me I was a fool and would lose it all. I sold half when it hit $1000/ounce. The rest has been in a safety deposit box waiting for BS like this to happen.

This could get interesting for those of us with precious metal holdings.

I haven't checked lately but NWS was predicting an early and heavier than normal monsoon. I hope they are right.

This works off of your phone wi-fi and adjusts to fit most any diameter optics. 34.MP4

I fished both there and in the brush. Also submerged treetops. The bigger fish came off of the rocks.