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Nash has one at their Phoenix location for under $19,000. I would not hesitate to buy the Honda. I have a friend that said he made a living working on Polaris. He said about the only thing Hondas came in for was service. I owned a 700 pioneer and made the mistake of getting rid of it and buying a Yamaha Viking.

I saw the other day Nash Powersports had Honda 1000's for under $25K.

Just a thought but they are kicking around proposals on the OTC deer tags. Option 2 I think,?? which is an archery draw is projected to lose about a million dollars should it be implemented. Wonder if this is to offset some revenue loss when they go to a draw. With the drought, human encroachment and predation I don't see how they can avoid a draw in the near future.

There are a ton of pigs in pockets in unit 41. I am a bit surprised they opened the entire unit to a general OTC tag. Season Dates Notes Open Areas Legal Wildlife Jul 1 - Dec 31, 2021 (16,17,18,19,20) 39 South (see note 17), 40B (excluding Pima County), 41, 43A, and 43B (excluding National Wildlife Refuges) Any javelina

Thanks. I missed that. But still only one application?

"Applicants can select up to six limited-entry permit-tag hunts on one application. Multiple applications will not be accepted. " Since there are 6 hunts I read this to mean all hunts regardless of specie are to be on one application? I would think that each species hunt would be separate. They could generate a lot more revenue. I have to be reading this wrong.

I don't have a problem with it. And I will apply.

I didn't have a tag but had several family members I helped that did. They all had opportunity but only took one 4x4. Overall it was as tough a desert hunt as I have seen in several years. Going out with a youth hunter tomorrow.

Honestly, they are both beautiful animals!

How many of you whitetail slayers have taken a 180+ burro buck in greasewood/mesquite flats with a bow or any weapon for that matter? And no, I haven't killed a 100" coues but have zero desire to waste my time doing it.

mule deer every time

I have seen way to many 180 bucks turn 160 when they hit the ground. 25 years ago I expected to see a 200" buck during the otc hunts. Then it became 180. Now a 160 buck is a really good buck. I think that drought and predators are the biggest reason why. On one ranch I hunt the old rancher was a cat killing fanatic. Deer herds were good. He sold and the next guy had the attitude that cats were part of the environment and he wouldn't hunt them. Deer population and quality took a big hit. Throw in habitat loss, people everywhere during the winter months and no help from G&F and the deer herds are in the shape they are in now. I have been helping family with their rifle hunts and noticed fawn survival is horrible. Doesn't say much for what the future holds.

My favorite unit

We had a guy pull a manlift out to the farm and was glassing the flats surrounding the fields. Game warden said it was perfectly legal since there were no weapons involved and he was just glassing. The trespassing was not legal.

Wish I had a tag

So I sent my wife's son into a spot where they kicked up 5 bucks, one of them a good one. He couldn't get off a shot. They went back into the same place this morning. He missed 3 times. Going out in the morning to see if I can't give him some support. He needs it.

When I was 18 years old me and another guy hunted 9 days without seeing a deer. I learned a lot about what not to do. Not tagging out has taught me more than killing one.

I don't think I could do that. I have had my butt handed to me many times by desert muleys. It just makes me that much more determined to figure them out. Taking a 180+ burro buck is as good as it gets.

This was an interesting webcast. I bet that we get option 2 on the archery deer. Or at least a variation of it. And it is clear that mandatory reporting is not going to happen.

Turkey and archery pig

Anyone use an SME Spot Shot? It creates wifi between it and your smart phone. Multiple smart phones can hook up to it. And they cost just a few dollars more than a phoneskope. This is a video I took of a small buck through my 15's a couple of years ago. It was windy so there is some vibration. The original video is much sharper than this sme.MOV

Sounds like they beat the crap out of someone

200's are a rare animal. I have killed a ton of desert muleys and only one over 200. 10-15 years ago I used to see at least one buck a year that would crack the 200 mark. It has been at least 5 years since I have seen one. Best of luck. Killing a giant desert mule deer with bow or rifle is a tough one.

I don't know much about anything but when the disappearing act happens look in the flats. Works for me. I am going to try to get out in the morning and do a quick scout for my wife's rifle hunt.