sjvcon

Yeah ... I am looking for a Jeep. Still considering Mark's ... nice looking Jeep. Just was hoping for something with a heater ... maybe I am being too much of a WUSS!!! I was really hoping to get $4K. The KBB is $4150, and this one has some nice extras. Tons of power. I am 265lbs +/- and it really moves even with my weight on it. I have had it at highway speeds and actually passed traffic running from Walker Peak (6A) in to Camp Verde (my buddy ran his quad out of gas about 15 miles from camp). I should also note that it holds quite a bit more gas than a POPO ... as he was on a Sportsman 500 and we both topped off before heading out. I still had plenty to spare when I hit Camp Verde and he was BONE DRY.

Priced reduced to $3700

Not sure about the Browning, but we have a Ruger M77 Mark II Compact with an 18" pipe, and it is one of the most accurate rifles in our safe ... and there aren't just a few. It'll print clovers at 100 yards when we do our part. Velocity definitely drops with shorter pipes ... it is just a function of not getting as complete a powder burn.

"Guns don't kill people. People kill people." That has been true, is still true, and will always be true, regardless what the Liberal Left states as "fact". The guy in Aurora had an agenda. If he had not been able to accomplish it with guns, he'd have used home made explosives, or even run his car into the line of people waiting to get in. He had access to tear gas ... not like that is a legal item to be bought off the shelf. Criminals will always find a means of causing harm. Guns didn't provide him with either the motive or the opportunity to kill. They were the tool that he chose ... like McVeigh chose a truck and a bomb made with fertilizer. If they were not available legally, he'd have obtained them illegally or just used something else. It is a tragedy when things like this happen. But they could easily happen without the availability of guns. Islamists used box cutters and planes to murder over 3,000 innocent victims on 9/11. By the way ... Rahm Emmanuel is taking advantage of the crisis he has in Chicago ... the most murders in the US in 2012. He has decided to grant the Nation of Islam, under Louis Farrakhan, right to patrol the city streets. So what do you all think will happen when some white criminal (or non-crminal) gets beaten to death by members of the Nation of Islam? Do you think there will be huge public outcry? Do you think President Dip Stick will get on TV and say to the nation "if I had a son, he'd look just like that boy"? Do you think that Eric "Fast and Furious" Holder will pursue charges? No. That won't happen. This administration is among the most racist that has ever existed. Obama and his minions are a disgrace.

I looked through a Vortex PST FFP 4-16x50 at Sportsmans Warehouse in the North Valley. Hard to get a read on glass clarity in a store, but it was impressive. The only thing I will say is that the reticle disappears against a dark background on lower powers ... about 4-7 or so. That is a bit disconcerting. You'd have to use the thicker outside mains to do your aiming on low power, kinda like a European Reticle. If you aren't going to use the reticle to range or hold over your target, it might be better to have one with SFP. Guess it depends how you will use it. Some other manufacturers may have thicker reticles at lower power. You'd have to look at them.

Okay. Shoot them to sjvcon@cox.net.

Like to get a mid/late 70's, but I'm willing to look at others.

Nikon Monarch ATB for just a little more than that. Decent for the money. They have split it into Grades 3, 5 and 7 now. Not sure where the old one fell, but they outperformed several others that were more money. I think I got mine for about $250 and they are about to become hand me downs when I get my new set. I use 10X, but I know some guys use 8X and some use higher (12).

Willing to look at a partial trade plus cash on my end (depending on value) toward a Jeep.

How superior is the Zeiss 10x42 Victory FL T to the new Zeiss Conquest HD in the 10x42???

I agree on the $100 statement. My buddy got a Pentax or something like that on sale at Sportsmans. 1 Shot and the lens came out of the thing!!!! Good thing it was at the range and not when he needed it.

I think there are more than just those, and some for less money too. SWFA is supposed to make a good scope at a reasonable price. Vortex has a couple of reach out and touch models (Razor, Viper PST, Viper HS LR). I have read some stellar reviews of the Weaver Tactical glass, which is remarkably inexpensive. Then you have some of the high end Burris like the XTR, high end Bushnell like the Elite Tactical, and I don't know I'd leave out Nikon either. They have a couple of super high end models that look great. Sightron has some great offerings, and then there's S&B (which I don't think should be left out of the high end discussions). The new stuff from Steiner looks pretty serious too. I've been shopping them pretty hard ... You can spend anywhere from $700 to several grand. Price kinda dictates who you go with really.

There are tons of great AR's, but some crappy ones too. Just make sure to read some reviews. You tend to get what you pay for in most cases. Some positive reviews on YHM and Daniel Defense, but those are a bit pricey. Heard good things about Rock River, Olympic, DPMS and some others.

Ain't that the truth. Big year for purchases. Scopes may wait depending if I get drawn or not. May end up swapping mine over onto my boys rifles for their Bull Elk hunts. They have cheap scopes and I was thinking to upgrade them.

I read once where the first acts of Hitler, Stalin and Chairman Mao was to disarm their poplulace to take away their ability to defend themselves. Not sure if that is true or not, but it sure makes sense. The whole point of "Fast and Furious" was an attempt by Obama and his Cronies to put American Gun Ownership on the hotseat. That has failed for them, and so our "Demander and Thief" has locked everything down to keep from getting caught with his pants down. Now they are trying to use the UN to do their dirty work. I'm all for praying donniedent ... and it usually helps.

Oh yeah ... thanks for the offer Big Brown.

Have you chrono'd it?

So the 1600's do or do not show the compensated difference??? Yeah ... I have $375 to Bass Pro and $300 to Cabelas ... ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH ... wish they were both to the same place!!!!!!!!! So here is the other wrinkle ... I'm thinking of buying new 10X binos too ... and a couple of new Scopes ... my wife is going to kill me ....................................................she's not a hunter.

It isn't that I can't afford the Leicas or Swaros ... its that I can't justify spending that much to my WIFE. Also, I can get the Vortex for $399 at Bass Pro and have about $375 in gift cards, so it costs me about $45-50 cash. Hence why I am asking if they are decent and whether it would be a decent upgrade. So given that ... thoughts? Or should I just buy the Leicas and let my wife bash on me a bit???

Devcon also makes a Stainless Putty and a Titanium Putty that will not rust if you will hunt in moist environments. A little more $, but worth it for an inclement weather rifle.

Grijalva is a First Class D-Bag. He's also the guy who supported the Feds in their lawsuit against Arizona for SB 1070. I mean really ... why should we decide that if the Feds won't do their job we'll do it for them. It's a shame this State has politicians like this guy ... he belongs in California or Massachusetts.

Okay folks ... this is where I remind all responsible campers that managing your fire is VERY IMPORTANT. Too many people leave fires unattended when they hit the sack, or go out to run about on quads or in a Jeep. Camp fires should be properly managed, and that means PUT OUT when they will be unattended. Let's not forget the two Bozos who started the Bear Wallow fire. They say they thought it was out ... I'm here to tell you if they checked it the right way that fire never would have rekindled and gotten out of the ring. Sorry ... one of my big Pet Peeves is people who think they need a huge blaze to enjoy the outdoors, then leave it unattended thinking "it will be fine".

Is this a 5 Shot or 6?

Any of you out there who are selling large ticket items on Craigslist, be wary. I have gotten more inquiries on my quads that have turned out to be SCAMS. Someone sends a response that they want information about your item. Usually is it still available? Do you have pictures (even when they are posted in the ad)? What is the condition? When you respond they offer to buy it using Paypal and have a shipping company pick it up, as they are conveniently out of town. First one of these I got made me leery and I researched. What they do is reverse the charges by disputing the payment through their credit card once the merchandise is picked up by the shipper (who I am not sure is or isn't involved in the scam). Since that first one, I have had 5 more inquiries doing the same thing. One saying they wanted to buy my "car" ... these idiots can't even get it straight on a scam. Last one REALLY PISSED ME OFF as the guy claimed to be in the military and in Afganistan. Dead give away was that he responded to two different ads for similar items in EXACTLY THE SAME WORDING. Using a story that he was military and serving in a war zone really irked me ... Just be wary. You should not accept Paypal for large ticket sales on Craigslist. They warn against it, and I'm here to tell you there are a bunch of scumbags out there trying to rip people off.

I don't know what the difference in energy is at 800 yards with a 180 vs a 200 grain, but if you shoot the 180's well, I'd stick with that. As to the energy, you will get a lot of debate over that issue. And it is really more a matter of how the energy is delivered to the animal that will determine it's ability to get up and go, or to drop on the spot. The better expansion you get, typically the better the transfer of energy to the animal. I love Barnes, and I use them a whole lot. Killed my first big Mulie with a TSX and it rolled up right where I hit it. The knock, however, is that at lower velocities it will not expand like a an Accubond or Partition (at least so "they" say). You get out to 800 yards, your velocity is starting to drop a lot faster than in the first 500 or so. If I were planning a Super Long Range hunt, I might use something that is known to have better expansion at lower velocities. Someone is certain to say I am full of it, and that is fine. They may say 1,000 or 1,500, or even 2,000 ... all numbers I've heard. But if your bullet isn't expanding, are you doing more than just poking a hole? I don't know ... I think you can get a heck of a lot closer than 800 to a rutting bull ... and if you get half closer that Barnes is a winner in my book (like I said ... I love 'em). Then again, if you don't you will need that longer shot ... so ???????????