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not to be a negative reply but i was trying to use this knife on my elk - butchering on my tailgate - I was skinning up the rear leg and just getting started when the blade came off- now i know it was snapped in properly - how it came off I dont know - where the blade went i wasnt sure but i proceeded to use my ole stand by - a schrade - It skinned-quartered,cut out the leg sockets etc. I had used it to gut split rear pelvis also - I hope to give this knife another try but didn't have time to mess with replacing blades - etc - especially under a street light skinning/ quartering out an elk bymyself!

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+1 ^ in 2 words the wind very important to know which way the wind generally blows - your blind needs to be down wind of the general direction most of the animals come from. just like in the tv shows they have stands situated in different spots and only use them only when the wind is blowing the scent away from where they expect the animals to be! scent control #2

tip what you can afford ! success always helps - take a good look at everything you experienced on the hunt! - I'm not a guide but i know some who wont take tips if the hunter wasnt successfull - I'm sure whatever you decide will be greatly appreciated!- 10% is probably about right -but times are tough 5% is better than nothing !- just my .02 Gary

hey buddy THANKS - do not forget about the poor critter that took 4-6-8 rounds to put down - more than one bullet hole means a lot of damaged meat that needs to be trimmed away- nothin more messy than blood shot meat ! I say this knowing of a poor critter -cow elk - that took 5 rounds before going down - only one was fatal - the last one - lol - just an added note - wasn't me - i only put in for bull tags!- lol hope to swing inand meeet - the meat guy --- gary

just to add one other comment - water - elk need water reguardless of now much snow - try melting snow for a water supply - takes huge amounts to get a glass- some may say the elk just eat snow - which maybe true to some extent-- water supplys start frezzing solid - move to lower elavations - or concentrate on moving water areas anyplace i've been where the tanks /ponds were frozen - no elk to be found

most topo maps will cost ya around 12 $ these days takes anywhere from 8-9 maps to cover a unit national forest maps are like 14$ now mainly cuz they are made out of a plastic type paper they also have unit maps for like $36 but a good price when concidering the othe r option of 9 maps- they were sold out of most units- a lot of gps dealers have maps/ software what unit ya lookin for ? g$f had a few really good maps but only for a very few unitss

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ok guys - whats your opinion - guy takes in a cow elk weighs(hanging ) at the shop 215 lbs. 4 quarters clean -just meat a questions - should he age it ? archery kill- not a lot of wasted trimings. wants like 40 lbs of burger - how much suet does the butcher add? does this add weight or not ? what should he get from the processor If ya ask the colledge experts they say 65% average so 215 x .65 = 139 lbs One meat cutting formula states -quote"Typically, the "hanging weight" of the beef will be about 60% of the live weight of the animal. From that weight, you can expect to receive about 65 to 70% of the hanging weight in packaged meat due to trim loss, bones, etc" heres another formula for figuring deer 100 lbs live weight X 78%=78 lbs field dressed weight x 75%= 58% hanging weight x 75%= 43 lbs of edibale meat by this one you'd figure approx 90 lbs of meat we usually get people saying they got ripped off from the processors . Any comments- lets just say bedoned for the record i know the one is for beef the other deer but its what I could find goggling we all know elk is a lot leaner than beef

repost- truly sad - just a reminder - forget mexico - spend your money on a new mexico hunt or go hog hunting in texas or california -

it doesn't have to be a dvd - this yr in unit 8 - last saturday- i was in Safeway - saw a family camo'd out- we talked elk- the daughter had takin a shot 40 yrds in the twilght of shooting hrs. Dad states - yep a solid double lung - we saw the fletching just sticking out - full penatration - It's like 8 o'clock - I'm like what the heck are you doing in here - dad replys well - I thought we should wait till morning cuz i dont want to go stumblin around in the dark - ! And besdies its plenty cold outside for the meat to still be ok by morning - it was 45* out I tried to briefly explain the importance of recovering the animal - especially if you are positive it was a kill shot- She had been stitting a tank and we know how they come in at the last minute! it couldn't/shouldn't have gone too far they just drove off!- go figure - figured they wanted to get pics of her first bull!

from the info -i'm getting - higher elevations/ cooler weather - elk a bugling on and off- Now that they are getting educated by the archers - much less talk once the sun comes up- I don't really believe the rut is in full swing just yet! #1 reason is all the really small calves that are still with the cows - (in areas I've been) due to the late rut last yr( because of the warmer weather) the elk are bugling in most areas

make a few trips - try spot lighting - just no guns/weapons in vechile - if I had your tag - I'd hunt the fence line going north-and south - of JD tank - park at the cattle crossing just east of the tank - Gary

from the looks of the hit - it possably a none vital area - not much up in that area to kill an animal unless it hit artery - in this case the bul will most likely live to fight/breed agin - he maybe slowed down for a few days - if not dragging a leg or worse - i say his chance for full recovery are better than average - try agin to locate in the next few days - sure he'll be easy to find - locate closes water - he'll show up- great picks - Gary

great write up- i agree - the only thing i see is just isn't long enough to cover all the good stuff or the crap that goes on - like we got the readers digest version- lol - thanks - gary

we had hoped to get a jump on traffic - comin down from ashfork- lots of people with the same idea - we left like at 930 am- -89 south busy and a line of traffic mile long -no chance to pass - always a mobile home with trailer slowin things up. clear all the way to cordes junction - This was the first time in 30 some yrs - we came to a full stop at the on ramp- bumper to bumper as far as the eye could see both ways on the south bound - slow and go - brakin on and off all the way to sunset - cleared for a while but traffic slowed to a stop agin around table mesa-- I told my wife - NEVER EVER goin out of town on a holiday agin unless we can stay a day later - we didn't see any wrecks - thank goodness made it home by 1

I was n/w of ashfork - never heard a peep - didnt glass any up either - know they are around some trees torn up and good sign at ponds/ tanks - was a tad warmer though - 90-92 - sure elavation and temp makes a big difference in activity- Gary

areas in and around portal right outside town in the foothills n/w of town theres like a 5 mile walkin trail -

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wallys always the first option for us budget minded hunters- i don't need name brand expensive items to have the same ammount of success! check out ebay - lots of times get great savings on arrows -/ archery equipment - and since your just flingin them accross the desert - buy the ole aluminum leftovers and don't worry - just get any ole 3 pin sight - set'm at 20-30-40 and go wack a few wraskels just for the record you can hunt squirels with a bow here too!

hello i gotta go with 135 - length and points kinda hidden

One of the reasons that lion is good tasting - they eat fresh meat - 99% of the time --yes i know cats will bury a kill and return but they prefer it as fresh as possible - Bear meat isn't the same - mainly cuz it'll really depend on what the bears are eating - bears eating prickly pears / acorns / not inthe state but jelly donuts etc. always taste good - now if ya find a trash bear eating dead carren or garbage etc - never tastes good - Give me lion meat anyday - it'll be grilled up that evening !- really good ! gary

I was refering to the area along slade creek- if ya hunt low and along the creek - you got to walk it!- only 1 maybe 2 places where atv's have access to the creek !- there is an old road on the flats on the desert side- on top but any traffic pushes the deer towards the creek and Baker hill - kinds cool ya hunt desert on one side and thicker treees on the north side- it's worth a trip to just see anew area ! I've never taken the rd that goes to the top of mtn Ord ! i bet it is a zoo! If ya like to hike - take the Banard trail into the Matazals! by Giesla - even try some roads into the south side of Matazals by sunflower. I taken most of my coues off slade creek!

if I had that tag I'd be around mtn ord - try the north base along Slade creek -think its called baker hill- they like to hide on the desert side above the creek - lots of little draws to check out ! right off the 87 - all the way over towards punkin center rd. Gary