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handgun - how long is that barrel - details on the t/c please great shot - nice buck -- i might add! Gary

heres the camera on 87 by clints wells- it'll show updated pictures as the day goes by! http://www.az511.com/hcrsweb/files/rwis522008.html

well i got a super deal from the classifies here - so i put my first ever camera up on my property in unit 10 - now we always see tracks and sometimes hear bugles -during the rut- but we never see any elk - these pics are on a few salt blocks i put out next to the shed! heres some of the 90+ photos taken -- Gary

first before we hand out all this free infor - how much salmon ya bringing for the bbq ? just kiddin- well kinda - lol ya got to live here 6 mo before ya can get a resident license - not sure what active military rules are - if that is your situation after that huntin is wide open - it's a different type of hunting here in Az but we love it !- Gary

hey Jeremy - most guys process deer at a flat rate - you'd really loose money on that one - lol - Gary

interesting - thats the area i've been tellin most escouters to check out - along the pipeline above stone lake - nobody has to my knowledge - but we almost always see elk in the general area lol nope i'm 14 n/w of ashfork ! Jeff- thanks agin for the great deal on these cameras -- Gary

if its ever possable for us to ever build -- this spot would be lookin out the back door ! we do have a trailer on the land now - so its doable ! Gary

sounds like ya didn't take his intentions serious - one way to know he wasn't just talkin to hear hisself - no hunting!!! grades gotta come first- now its time for you to step it up and show him - you can improve your grades hopefully you'll learn that what he says - he means !

here are some good optics for the price - http://cgi.ebay.com/Orion-Giant-View-Binoc...=item19c0bb7b64 orion are made for star gazers - i got a pair of the 10x50 ultras - and they are super great optics - these come in a varity of size i got a pair of 30x80 - cabelas type- and i really like them -I'd forget the one eye patch /spotting scope - you get a much better view with these huge 80 glass and a much better picture - i never can get use to one eye - but everyone is different Gary http://www.telescope.com/control/category/...CFRNSgwodKQRjNg

dont forget all the feeders - piles of corn - and all the other goodies hunters put out so these guys will produce better antlers! true we had an excellent rain and the deer habitate is having a bumper yr. -- they eat better they grow bigger !!

well Steve - i hope you have the time to sit for all 3 days of the event or at least have someone present at all times- last yr - they brought out different racks at various times thru out the three days . I hope you get your rack back and not have to have a bidding war with someone who also may want your elk- sorry G&F is being an ace about this situation - the law is the law especially when the cash benifits them ! G$F applies here agin dollar to a dime the have a minimum starting bid -Steve's not going get it for a nickle - sorry Gary

shoulda made me that offer - lol - went out sunday scoutin - we seen some deer - rl had 15x56 savorski's -my used my ole 16x50 pentax i could see the deer - barely tell they were bucks - looked thru his set- yet thats a 2x2 thats a 2x3 etc . etc- what a difference optics can make - no way i can do 2200- 2500 but what a difference - back in the day - 12 yrs ago these were the high end of binos for pentax - times have changed now where locating can make all the difference - i can really see where upgrading optics is a needed item in ones equipment

well - i'm not sure what to say! that is one line that never should have been drawn - from my point of view- I'd be goin hunting- with todays cell phones etc. hunting alone isnt what it was 20-30 yrs ago - the dangers of going huntin - lol - thats a good one ! i've never had to ask my wifes permission to go hunting - Kinda like the cowboy gettin in the saddle and ridin off to do , what has to be done --- give her a kiss and say see ya in a few days - hope ya can come to an understanding - but there would be no way in he!! i'd be sitting home with a DEC. coues tag in my name -- just cuz my wife doesn't want me to go- even if its alone. try to find someone else to go along and camp sit - if that'll help - good luck - Gary

kent - just for the record - i was makin reference to the statement about putting lag bolts into trees - made by Coach - i do see the tree with the box is an old decaying tree - suprises me the bolt didnt pull out!!

well basically they state attach anything that can damage the tree- to be honest even cutting limbs - clearing shooting lanes - building blinds can possably be labeled doing damage to trees. guess its all on how its being interpeted by the people in charge or these rules/laws. Like I stated in a previuos post--somewhere we really don't have any idea what the national forest laws are leaving unattended items- littering - the pack it in pack it out - etc -- depends on what they want to do . since none of this stuff is natural in the forest Its getting to the point - we are gonna learn the rules real quick !

I'm pretty sure that this is also ILLEGAL you can not permanently attach anything to a tree sure ya want to try to keep your camera safe but its still notthe right thing to do!

why not build your own - do godaddy.com - i did mine - fairly easy - the program wlaks you thru options - customer support was outstanding - that way any changes i just did it myself - they are very helpful - i recently stopped mine but when i try my business agin - that'll bethe way i go - Gary

Sorry for all the disabled veterans ond how this hunt turned out for them and you . Some kinda seen this comin - when you have commanders and heads of departments that are not hunters - that just about sums it up. from all the details not posted - Camp Navajo-big boys in charge- did everything to prevent these hunters from hunting! Of all the hunts to total destroy - why this group - who probably deserve to hunt -- more so than any others- Sorry buddy - gary

first pic of the young guy - looks to be clownin around - stick antlers -- ok the second you see both up close to camera - kinda with the intent of foolin with it! the angle of photo is not same as first pic - so they are definatley movin the camera !

Gary Please add these to any web site you like, I was able to add the older to the site but couldn't upload the younger one. I was running these cams in unit 3C, and these two worked over 30 minutes trying to remove them. My Covertll was locked in it's metal box with a cable master lock. Barry heres the message from this guy - messin with cameras

upload to desk top - below this reply box - in the attachment area - use the browse and the upload - cant wait to see ur pics

heres what g&F has to say about it ! Information for anyone interested in adoption a desert tortoise Thank you for your interest in adopting a desert tortoise. Removing desert tortoises from the wild was legal until 1989, when the Arizona Game and Fish Department protected the species from collection from the wild. Breeding of these captive tortoises and their offspring has led to a surplus of tortoises that need homes. However, we ask that you give considerable thought to being a tortoise caregiver before you apply. A captive tortoise can live up to 100 years, so be aware that a tortoise you adopt may outlive you. Please read the captive desert tortoise care information carefully and determine whether or not you are able to provide the burrow and yard enclosure a desert tortoise requires, as well as the necessary care and treatment. Desert tortoises are typically only adopted from April 1-September 30 because they hibernate during the cooler months. Often families use the winter months to prepare their tortoise habitat, constructing the burrow and enclosure. If you decide you would like to adopt a desert tortoise, please read our packet on Caring for a Captive Desert Tortoise and review the Desert Tortoise Adoption Checklist before you apply to be sure you have fulfilled the requirements. Then, fill out the Desert Tortoise Adoption Application and return it with the required photo documentation. In some cases, we may request that you give a tortoise adoption expert permission to visit your yard to take a closer look at your tortoise habitat. After you have been approved to adopt a tortoise, we will contact you to make arrangements to pick up your desert tortoise. Your tortoise may be permanently marked so if it becomes lost and then found it can be identified by various animal care agencies or veterinarians. A marked tortoise can be traced back to one of our adoption facilities and returned to you. You will be asked to pay a re-homing fee to cover costs of the adoption process. Any of the state-sanctioned desert tortoise adoption facilities will accept desert tortoises that can no longer be cared for by adoptive families. Typically, this occurs when adoptive families leave the state or the owner passes away. Desert tortoises cannot be removed from Arizona, so if you are a desert tortoise custodian and are moving from Arizona, you must return the desert tortoise to one of the adoption facilities. If you relocate within the state, please contact the nearest adoption facility to update your address in our records. Remember that it is not only illegal to release a captive desert tortoise into the wild, and doing so is detrimental to wild tortoises because it can spread disease and disrupt uniquely adapted genetics in wild populations. It is also illegal and detrimental to desert tortoise populations to collect tortoises from the wild. Desert tortoises cannot be adopted outside of their natural range. You may adopt a desert tortoise if you live in the greater Kingman, Bullhead City, Lake Havasu, Kingman, Phoenix, Tucson, or Yuma areas. Desert tortoises cannot survive the severe winters that occur in the northeastern or southeastern regions of the state. Contact information for desert tortoise adoption facilities are listed below. State-sanctioned Adoption Facilities Phoenix: Phoenix Herpetological Society (602) 550-7029; 602-705-2240 Bullhead City: AGFD Region III Office (928) 692-7700 Lake Havasu: AGFD Region III Office (928) 692-7700 Kingman: AGFD Region III Office (928) 692-7700 Yuma: AGFD Region IV Office (928) 342-0091 Tucson: Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum (520) 883-3062 Regulations pertaining to desert tortoises in Arizona Per Arizona Game and Fish Commission Rule R12-4-407 A.1, "An individual may possess, transport, or give away a desert tortoise (Gopherus agassizii) without a special license if that individual possessed it before April 28, 1989. An individual who possessed a desert tortoise before this date may propagate it, and hold offspring in captivity for 24 months from the date of hatching. The individual shall dispose of the offspring of desert tortoises before or at the end of the 24 months by giving them as a gift or as directed in writing by the Department. An individual who receives a desert tortoise that is given away under this Section is also exempt from the special license requirements. An individual shall not export a desert tortoise from this state unless authorized in writing by the Department." Per Arizona Game and Fish Commission Order 43, "Possession limit is one desert tortoise per person." The Tortoise Adoption Program Guidelines state that as of January 2008, you may adopt one desert tortoise per household.

well I'll probably get the dink award - Scouting the night before opening day - produced a huge 6x6 340+ class standing in the middle of the rd, at 200 yrds , for at least 5 minutes . they were trying to jump a fence - Opening morning , at the same spot. At least 4 bulls were bugling like crazy - I just couldnt get them to come in and wasn;t able to get ahead of them . Was one possible 300 yrd plus shot - at a big bull running thru the trees - i passed. I walked right into a 4x5 with a few cows but passed. opening evening i sat a water hole and had same 4x5 at the tank at less than 50 yrds for 10 minutes - I passed. After that things got hot - weather wise and the bulls shut down. 2nd morning not a peep in the same meadow. Hunting the Navajo depot has lots of disadvantages - very limited hunting area - mile wide x 6 miles long on both sides of the base. they can shut down one side or both at any time. they shut down my tank the second evening and the other side produced nothing- Most of the elk- a herd of over 600 stay inside the base area , which is off limits. no reason to go anywhere! some hunters were successfull 6 bulls and 6 cows were taken in 4 days. the biggest taken was a 5x6 that wouldnt go 300 . mostly raghorns after 2 days of not see or hearing elk I was getting a bit discouraged - ya had between 6-7:30 on the morning or from 5-630 in the evening. most animals were taken from sitting water in the evenings. I was mostly after a freezer full of meat , not a set of huge antlers! I had a minor problem with my truck - my 4x4 sticking in 4 high - that didnt help but I noticed wednesday mornin U joint clunk - Since i was one of the last to still be hunting - if ya get stuck you are on ur own - most hunters had left- I decided next elk that walked into the tank I was sitting that night , was hittin the dirt - At 6:05 the next night a dink 3x came to water - well a fork with a busted 3rd- lol- he never left! Now on the depot you have to bring out the entire animal for ID- you can only leave a gut pile - all else must be checked in! Luckly I had exchanged #'s with the only other hunter in the area! I called and he helped me load the elk- I'm quite thankfull it wasn't a super bigelk - as I'd have been left to cut it up by lantern/ headlights - It was hard enough as it was- fat little sucked- after checkin in the bull - I still had to skin and debone him. I pulled under a parking area street lamp and butchered up my elk - took me 2 hrs on my tailgate!- I iced the meat- and decide to head home it was after 12 but hey its only a 2 hr drive. I just finished cutting/wrappin backstraps - got the front / back legs in fridge along with the ribs/neck meat - Loin steaks tonight - I got my TROPHY - a freezer full of meat- well a 1/2 full freezer - lol I made it home safely but as i backed in my wifes like what the heck was that noise - now i gotta replece my u joints- Oh i forgot to mention My driver sdie electric window stuck in the up position the day before I left Just happy to be home safely!-- whats the dink award anyway ! no pics - too tired - this is the readers digest condensed version - lol - Gary

just don't push the guts / blood issue too much - girls can be a bit shy of the other aspects of successfull hunting - don't forget squirrel hunting - nothing - i mean nothing gets them excited as chasin squirrels thru the woods and up a tree and then sitting back and shootin 22's - good luck - gary

way to go JOE - wondered what happened to all those u tube video's ya had posted - lol Looks like ya got a great DVD comin up- - keep in touch gary