elkaholic

The money guys pushing this type of legislation - you know who you are, so do we - AH_ FG _AP they know we have the best wildlife money can buy - It's evident they are not happy with harvesting a single animal per yr. let them go to another state - it will not matter if they buy the one tag here or run up the bill - somebody else will take their place - why do you think they want these tags - they are the best any state can offer - we sportsmen and women are saying -NOT HERE IN ARIZONA might be the wrong thread but oh well!

so big question - how many times or how often are you or will you check to see if your creditcard is hit today?

http://nccsdataweb.urban.org/orgs/profile/200867381?popup=1#forms http://nccsdataweb.urban.org/orgs/profile/200867309?popup=1#forms as you scoll down the pages please notice how the top postions of members on each org is listed!!

well ada not alone the MSC posted on their website but we have no way of knowing if they made it public or sent it out to their members!! april 12 thats the end of the legislators session - same peas in the pod! any members here get a n email from them?? The Mohave Sportsman Club, northwest Arizona's largest outdoor recreational club is asking for your opinion! The MSC Board of Directors has been asked to provide a position statement on the legislation that the AZSFW has and will once again submit in the Arizona legislature. This bill is commonly referred to as HB 2072, though that original bill is dead. The MSC needs your input as a sportsman as we have stated numerous times that we are the voice of sportsmen in northwest Arizona. Please take the time and read through the following two links that details some of the pro and cons of the proposed legislation. Arizona Sportsman For Wildlife Arizona Wildlife Federation Please reply to the MSC at suggest2msc@gmail.com or to Govt. Liaison Don Martin , at awoguide@citlink.net by April 12. Let us know if you support or oppose this legislation. Thanks for your support, Don Martin Govt. Liaison Mohave Sportsman Club

i spent all my extras on the draw- i know eveyone will have great time - go early - buy a few ballons -

report of a credit card hit from g&f for 114 today. somebody got an elk tag post'm up --- nothing for me yet!

when i chatted with a g&f office exec. at the meeting last night about the draw - I was told they are checking all credit cards to make sure they have suffcient funds before they run the final draw process. just like cashing your checks - seems a lot of people used the cards! they want it to go smooooothly once activiated.

AZSFW not only wants to sell our wildlife, but it also has hired lobbyists to influence legislators to bypass this tried and true system. If it gets its way, the result will be a Legislature that micro-manages our wildlife with little input from the public and (more importantly) professional wildlife managers. thats sounds like a headliner to me!

well how did it go?

please send this information to her and call her !!! as a non resident it may help influence her opinons - call untill you get her hey i can make cool pie charts too - kinda think we gave them that idea! since its a new tactic

Sad day when they believe the B.S.

there is no admendments showing on 1300 or 1305 ya got anythingelse for us to look at ?!

i'd be happy if my reps would return a call - left several mesages - the yhave real nice office help to which i have explained things too.

how many of those are on the g&f commissioners review board ?

" let's stay focuss at the same time and don't loose focuss on our hunting heritage." I thought that was exactly what we were / are fighting for - our future hunting heritage - free of more tags for sale!

Thats a great idea - lets all just relax -I'd be happy to join you. BUT thats exactly what they want - for us to give up - forget about it I wish it never started It's not about all the good things - it's changed everything - sad to say It's changed you , it's changed me- everyone! ****THEY WILL NOT STOP **** they have proved that - I can't quit now! One can not quit till its over or you've already lost! This is too important to lose! It's here - It's happening NOW We have to deal with it! one way or another thats my.02

they know the main speakers at the legislature do not like it as worded - we told them that G&F gives them a list of all organizations invited to the Thursday meeting do you think they have sat idle with this list - - guess agin hope you posted on all sites!!

we all lose the perspective of truth and honesty when dealing with some political issues. we can thank AZSFW for this mess - which includes those who support and activily continue to pursue the idea of "MORE" tags for sale . It's not about wildlife - It's not about conservation - It's not about hunting It all boils down to MONEY AZSFW wants an expo to make money - of which they want complete control. That's the PAYDAY the rest is all whitewash. lots of other ways to raise money - so many times the option of a conservation stamp has been stated. $5- stamp - 400,000 fishing/ hunting licenses - a cool 2 million - approx same money these tags would raise - problem solved if it was truly about providing funds for wildlfie and the different programs. The tags are the only way they get an expo!

heres 6 miles n/w of ashfork this morning in unit 10

Jim -- Thank you for your honest answer. I hate politics too. Ugly business. I'm sure the majority wish this crap had never happened and would go away - but unfortunatly it doesnt look like that will happen! This was the first time i saw you here thats why I asked! Say hello to your Dad for me!

kinda wondering - JIM - was that your first imput on this subject, that has been discussed /argued etc. for weeks ,when you edited a post. A question ! do you support azsfw or bill 2072? i do not recall seeing you ever making a comment.

Finally out hunting agin! stop in and say hey sometime!!

"Yes, maybe They made a mistake in the way they handled and introduced " lets see - they betrayed the trust of every organization by having the attitude -- WE DECIDED they didnt discuss or communicate ,they tried to sneak it thru and make it a law before we could even think about it!! a few decided what was better for everyone. " they apologized for it...Let's move on-- " trust has to be earned - then they insult us - tell us we don't whats good for us. you'll be sorry. they further insult us by the continued push to get the tags,the wording changed to say hey - we'll give you a piece of the pie They still want the cream of the hunting tags. They still want to change the rules. They still want to control the money! We do not need someone who wants to control the G&F department. We do not need someone who says give us the money, just do not ask what we do with it. you'll get some we need someone whom we can trust and will communicate with us and be open and honest - it's not azsfw azsfw 2.bmp

Thanks Amamda - for the reminder. I'm guilty - I will stop making personal attacks and edited/deleted a few post -

were gonna have to expand the list of so called "trouble Makers"