Redman

I have heard there are hogs in unit 32 buy Redfield Canyon on the Smallhouse property. I have never seen them, but a good friend knows the owner and said he had been invited to rid them off his property. Redman

I got the same emai, what a bunch of crap. Redman

There are quite a few of left over tags in 30B. Check the G&F website, there is still a chance for those who did not get drawn. Redman

I never hunted in NM and many of my hunting partners did not draw a tag (any tag). We were thinking about OTC in NM. How is the rest of 23 that is open to OTC? How about unit 16? Any info would be great. Redman

Scottboy, For the last three years I have hunted in 33. 2 for 3 (i missed three bucks the year I did not tag). I have seen big bucks (some with tags, some running wild, but I have never had the opportunity to tag one). I like three areas. 1. Bueman Cayon (which is in the Rincons around mile post 15 on the Redington Pass RD) 2. Happy Valley exit 297 off I-10 3. Pepersauce Area buy Oracle. As trufletch mention go 2-3 ridges from the road, and you will not find but a few hunters. I suggest scouting all three, then driving the roads during the Oct hunt, you will see where the majority of people congregate. If you need more information on any three of the areas above areas let me know. I drew a 32 nov tag this year, my nephrew drew his first tag in 33 in Oct, so we will be doing plenty of scouting. Redman

Lark, I just read it, the numbers speak for themselves. " With 62 deer thriving in the pen, and only about four deer surviving in similar areas and under similar conditions outside the pen" Then this wacko from the sierra phub says this "If Game and Fish winds up saying we should kill more coyotes and mountain lions, I'm not sure where that would take us" This retard wants to neuter or spay coyotes or lions instead of "shooting" them. Things are getting out of control. Thanks for posting the article, I would of never seen it. Andy

UNit 32 Nov WT for me, nothing else, it time to get it on!! Redman

Obviously, Buster has clearly shown he is a liberal, atheist, and he is baiting us into arguments while suggesting those on this board are an enemy like the enemy our men and women are facing it Iraq ( I sure Buster prefers the word "insurgents" to describe the throat cutting enemy) There are many people like Buster. They want the Federal court to decide some cases like this while disregarding each State?s rights to govern itself and serve it residents. This is almost ALWAYS the truth, until a subject like gay marriage comes up. Then it?s the State?s right to decide how and who gets married, better yet they prefer city governments make these decisions because they know it easier to serve their own interests. They are also very good at confusing the facts and bating arguments like: ?Coues deer=superior deer, mule deer=CARP before last Tuesday" to "mule deer=first rate deer today" issue. Can you CW guys say "double standard" I?m sure 98% of us on this board don?t care about the mule deer cap, but will fight to the end to keep the BULL ELK CAP. You know what?s funny, the $2500 he and others donated hasn?t done anything yet other than make one liberal judge change his mind. This issue is far from over and while I believe our G&F commissioner is a incompetent, maybe he will lead a solution that protects the rights of Arizona residents more than the current system. Buster, being wealthy is great everybody would love to have money instead of being without. It doesn?t mean you?re a bad person. What makes you a bad person is when you make comments like (and I?m paraphrasing) ?wouldn?t you like to draw a mouse or elk tag in other states?, this is a slap in the face to those who can?t afford to travel to these other states. You assume because you can, everybody can. Right now, Arizona residents have the opportunity to hunt trophy elk for less than $100.00. Good luck Buster, and everybody remember he and others like him serve their own interests.

The cap applies to ALL BULL elk and only deer units about the C. River. New Mexico has a different way of implementing a cap. 78% of all tags go to residents. This leaves 22%. 12% of the 22% go strictly to outfitters they can deploy this tags however they want. The remaining 10% go to non-residents In the NW system, the outfitters make out great. They get STRICTLY 12% of the tags, but also have the opportunity to guide non-residents and residents that draw a tag not from their pool of 12%. Redman

Terry, The cap appiles for deer units ONLY aboe the C river 12 & 13, BUT The cap appiles to ALL BULL ELK, ANT, BIG HORN SHEEP, AND BUFFALO (they really only wanted the strip and to hunt bull ELK that is why they sued, only deer and ELK were mentioned in the suit thats why the cap will still apply to other speicies\). I read this a couple of time in the reqs to understand it. Redman

Greetings, I have thought about the ruling a lot since my lost post, I wish I could attend the meeting tomorrow but I cannot. If it is apparent that the ruling will stand and will affect this years draw results, please somebody attending suggest the following (if you agree). 1. Raise the amount non-residents pay for a tags substantially. 2. Require all applications to be paid for up-front when applying 3. Raise all guide fees for non-resident guides substantially. 4. Do not let them postpone the releasing of the draw results. Redman

This really irritates me for a few reasons: 1. Why is Arizona being singled out when other states have quota systems? 2. Why did the G&F not move faster and release the results sooner knowing this ruling was close. 3. It is a possibility that I will never be drawn for bull elk. A solution should be: 1.Raise the permit fees for non-residents to astronomical amount >$2000.00 2.Require payment to be sent in with the application 3.Make all states abolish quota systems This should be appealed and since the outcome affects some many individuals, it should be heard quickly. In the overall scheme of things, I got my health, family, and archery season starts soon enough. Redman

I wonder if the same person who has been sending the fishing reports, wildlife news, and watch able wildlife news (emails) is responsible for updating the website with the draw results. Can anybody say prioritize???