MRL1984

Out at the moment and the whitetail bucks I have seen have been far away from the does.

Might do better putting this in the classifieds section.

I think any gun from 6mm up would do you fine for just coues. I haven't really looked at the ballistics of say a .243 to know how well it will do at long range, but many of coues have fallen to it and bench rest shooters use various wildcats of 6mm to reach out long range. I don't think you could go wrong with any of the guns already suggested. As roninflag said the key is the rifle,scope and operator set up. The $5000 McMillan won't do a bit of good if you don't put good shooting practice and procedures to work.

Where is local pick up?

Agreed. I don't like the "I'd rather look cool than happy" philosophy on picture taking either, but hey - to each his own. Great bucks - Bucknasty is a dandy. Morenci kids don't smile for pictures it's not a matter of being cool. It's like throwing the spider as a wave, it's what you do. I still am hard pressed to smile for pictures. Congrats Waldo and Mike. Jake good job writing this up.

Cabelas was super empty tonight compared to what I've seen in the past and expected. I was there from 7 to close. Picked up some 210M primers. Bonus was they were about 6 bucks off. Seems like there is a lot less rush this post election week than last time.

Unless it's reported lost/stolen it won't be in NCIC or ACIC. Only law enforcement types can run it through the computer. Little bit of red tape to run things in the computer for personal interest, think felony and no more job. Also this posting should be a defense for fail to return found property. You are making the effort to find the rightful owner. So not just good karma. Usually with found property the local PD will have a timeframe for claim by the owner before the finder is notified it is theirs to pick up. If the finder doesnt want it then it is auctioned or destroyed. Not sure what policy is regarding firearms, I know it's different in most cases thanks to the ATF. My department had a pretty good collection of guns I would love to own, but the ATF tape made it easier to destroy them so they did.

Good luck with that December tag. Only have 3 whitetail hunts and two jr hunts ahead of you. Good news is I'm sure they had tags for all the above left over, due to the cartel bringing merchandise through the unit. Illegals are there as is border patrol. Just like any other southern unit.

Ladies, where are you finding some of the warmer style clothes for women? My fiancé is on the smaller side so she can't stretch into guys clothing and there isn't much choice at cabelas. Looking to get her a few layers so she can add or subtract as needed, since she runs a little more on the cold side than I do.

I have the book and for the H4831 and 180 gr. ti gives a starting load of 70.2 with a velocity of 2702. The max load is 75.5 with a 2982 velocity. It shows a 101% load density with the max load. Oh and looking it doesn't designate that it is the scirroco 2, just says scirroco.

I would recommend joining Arizona Shooting, the only catch being you need to make a few posts to get into the classified adds over there. There is a rather steady flow of pistols, rifles and shotguns for sale or trade. There are really good people and like any internet forum a few d-bags. I have seen a few people I recognize from here over there as well. I have made a couple of deals there and they went really well.

I spent some time reviewing doing this. After a lot different reviews on the Kwick Klip, I stayed clear of it. Just seemed like it was either a great or junk, mostly based on what caliber rifle the user had. I just wasn't willing to take the chance of getting the junk version. Getting an actual remington conversion kit or replacement parts was fairly difficult as well since I was looking when everyone was out of stock. They are expensive considering what they are. Brownells is around $140.00. I got mine from Stocky's Stocks for 130.00 Edited to remove my lack of skill in adding links.

Still available or did Lark take the cake?

I realize its something like impossible at this point, but does anyone have a decent place to find large rifle, small rifle or large rifle magnum in any variety between the north end of Phoenix valley, to say Flagstaff? Thats about all I need beside a bench and a little time to start cooking my own rounds. Guess since I don't have a wife, I can always use the kitchen table.

There really are some pretty good things getting glassed up in the woods. Kinda makes me think I need more time on the glass since I haven't seen much in the line of non-animal related stuff. One of the coolest things I have seen though is watching a Border Patrol chopper buzzing a canyon over to the from where I was glassing. It went back and forth a few times then landed down on the flat where the canyon feeds down to. A couple BP trucks parked on the pavement near the chopper in the flat and yup you guessed it, 3 UDA's came walking up to the pilot who had exited the chopper. They were quickly loaded up in the trucks and the chopper flew off to go look for some more action. My dad has some goods stories from 34B near I 10. He witnessed a couple morons shooting up a pump house. He ran them off, but wasn't able to get enough information since they split pretty quick. He also found a dead body down there, which was determined to be a suicide.

Well I have an AR lower so assuming I can get the rest of the parts that will be my next gun. I really want a Sig 220 and that will probably be the next full gun purchase, unless of course I can find a Smith and Wesson model 29 in .44 mag with a 6 in barrel for the right price.

Laughing that much is kind of painful. Geeze I don't even have to see the whole picture. Its taking me 5 mintues to get this much typed. Thanks for the new wallpaper on my desktop. I need a good laugh like that everyday. I don't know that it really helps, but my tiger stripe camo boonie hat always goes along for my hunts. I think I had gone without filling my deer tag for about 6 years before last one. Then again I was trying to spot and stalk with sticks and feathers.

Sorry to hear that. Regardless of it being a mistake or intentional on their part its sucks. I had the same thing happen to a couple buddies who put in for elk on the same app, back in the day. It was weird to hear the G&F movie phone voice say "YOU WERE REJECTED". Anyway you said you had proof and left me hanging so appoligies if I seemed mean with it. I just have this bad habit of telling folks to prove it.

I can't help myself, PROVE IT.

Thats why you put the AK in the scabbard of the Just 1 and wear the tactical vest. Come on.... In all honesty I agree, stay away if you don't feel good about the situation. If you have no fear go kill a buck.

DESERT MULE DEER Odocoileus hemionus crooki Buro, Venado mula del desierto (Sp), Maultierhirsch (G), Cerf mulet du desert (F). DESCRIPTION The desert mule deer is similar to the Rocky Mountain mule deer, although slightly smaller, paler in color and with a smaller rump patch. The typical desert mule deer (crooki race) has a comparatively small forehead patch and a dark line running partway down its tail. The southern mule deer (fuliginatus race) is dark-colored with a dark line down its back and almost no white on the tail. The peninsula mule deer (peninsulae race) is pale with a dark line down its back and more white on its tail than the southern mule deer. In all desert mule deer, the antlers are not as heavy or as high as in Rocky Mountain mule deer. Desert mule deer racks tend to have wide spreads, and many lack brow tines. BEHAVIOR Has adapted successfully to extremely harsh conditions-great heat and also intense cold, meager forage, scarce water, and lack of vegetative cover. HABITAT Desert and semi-arid regions. DISTRIBUTION California: The extreme south, in Riverside, Imperial, Orange and San Diego counties. Arizona: South of Highway 68 from Davis Dam on Lake Mohave eastward to Kingman on Interstate 40, then south of Interstate 40 between Kingman and the intersection with Hwy 93, then southwest of Hwy 93 southward between Kingman and Wickenburg, then south of latitude 34°N eastward between Wickenburg and Carrizo on Hwy 60, then west of Hwy 60 southward between between Carrizo and Globe on Hwy 70, then south of Hwy 70 between Globe and Safford, then south of Hwys 191 and 78 from Safford to the New Mexico border. New Mexico: South of Highway 78 from the Arizona border eastward to Hwy 180, then southwest of Hwy 180 through Silver City to the intersection with Hwy 152, then south of Hwy 152 to Caballo on Interstate 25, then east of Interstate 25 northward to Bernardo on Hwy 60, then south of Hwy 60 eastward to Fort Sumner on Hwy 84, then south of Hwy 60/84 to the Texas border. Texas: Most desert mule deer are found in the trans-Pecos region west of the Pecos River, but they also occur in a number of places in the Panhandle region. The game department considers all mule deer in Texas to be desert mule deer, either native populations or from 1949-1968 transplants from the trans-Pecos desert mule deer herd. We accept this in the absence of conflicting opinion. Mexico: Baja California, northern Sonora, northern Chihuahua, and northwestern Coahuila. TAXONOMIC NOTES Five subspecies listed by Wallmo comprise the SCI desert mule deer category: crooki (typical desert mule deer), from southeastern California, southern Arizona and New Mexico, western Texas, northern Sonora and Chihuahua, and northwestern Coahuila; fuliginatus (southern mule deer), from southwestern California through northern Baja California; peninsulae (peninsula mule deer), from the southern half of Baja California; sheldoni (Tiburon Island mule deer); and cerrosensis (Cedros Island mule deer). The name crooki Mearns, 1897 has priority. The formerly recognized buro deer (eremicus) (buro is colloquial Mexican for mule deer) is now included within crooki. STATUS The Cedros Island mule deer (O. h. cerrosensis) is listed as endangered by the USF&WS (1975) and the IUCN, and may not be imported in the United States. It and the Tiburon Island mule deer (O. h. sheldoni) were once feared extinct, but both survive and are legally protected. The other races are secure. ROCKY MOUNTAIN MULE DEER Odocoileus hemionus hemionus Venado mula de las Rocosas (Sp), Maultierhirsch (G), Cerf mulet (F). Called mule deer because of its large ears. DESCRIPTION The usual buck will stand 40-42 inches (102-107 cm) at the shoulder and weigh 175-200 pounds (80-90 kg), but weights of 300 pounds (135 kg) are not uncommon in some areas. The female is smaller. A medium-sized deer, rather heavily built for a deer, with a thickset body and legs and rather large feet. The ears are long and wide, resembling those of a mule. The antlers of a mature buck are large and widespread. The summer coat is thin and varies in color from tan to rusty-red. The rump, belly and inside of legs are white. Face and throat are whitish, with a black patch on the forehead and a black bar around the chin. Tail is white with a black tip, and sometimes the base of the tail is brown. The underside tail hairs are not erectile and the tail is not used for signaling. The thick winter coat is brownish-gray. Preorbital, tarsal, metatarsal and interdigital glands are present. The metatarsal glands are about five inches (12.7 cm) in length and located closer to the hock than the hoof. (On a blacktail, these glands are 2-1/2 to 3 inches (6.4 to 7.6 cm) in length and are located about halfway between hock and hoof.) BEHAVIOR Lives in small family groups of does, yearlings and fawns. Bucks are usually solitary, or sometimes in very small bachelor groups. A group is likely to be spread out rather than in close association. The rut begins in October and lasts two months. Dominance fights between males are less competitive than in other deer species, being largely bluff. Fawns (usually two, sometimes three) are born May-June. Life expectancy 8-12 years in the wild, as much as 20 years in captivity. Feeds mainly in early morning and evening, usually resting at midday and night. Primarily a browser, but will graze on occasion. Mule deer are migratory in mountainous areas, summering as high as 8,000 feet (2,400 m), and retreating to lower elevations in winter to avoid deep snows. Migration distances may be 50 miles (80 km) or more. Senses of smell and hearing are acute, vision less so. Able to run 35 mph (56 km/h) for short distances, but unable to maintain speed for long. Bounds away in a series of high leaps when disturbed. Can cover 25 feet (7.6 m) horizontally in a single leap. A very strong swimmer. Main predators are coyotes, but also cougars. HABITAT Adaptable to a wide range of western habitat from prairie to alpine to semi-desert, with a preference for open or semi-open country. DISTRIBUTION Southwestern Canada, and the western United States north of the line established for desert mule deer. REMARKS A large mule deer buck is a superb trophy and a fine game animal, although perhaps less difficult to take than the sneaky, brush-loving whitetail. Hunted mostly by glassing and stalking, sometimes by waiting on stands. Popular lore holds that a jumped mule deer will always stop after 100 yards (90 m) to look back, but hunters should not count on this, as unwary bucks seldom grow old enough to develop trophy antlers. TAXONOMIC NOTES Two subspecies listed by Wallmo comprise the SCI Rocky Mountain mule deer category: hemionus (Rocky Mountain mule deer) and californicus (California mule deer), with hemionus Rafinesque, 1817 having priority. The formerly recognized Inyo mule deer (inyoensis) is no longer considered valid and is included within californicus. STATUS There were millions of mule deer in North America prior to European settlement, but their numbers declined to 500,000 by 1900 after years of market hunting and habitat destruction. Since then, regulation and management efforts have increased numbers to about 5-1/2 million, with an annual sport harvest of 500,000. Populations are secure, and mule deer are expanding their range. Well I googled it and found this information directly on SCI's website. Hope it helps. Yes I am now your google master.

I read that Phoenix was number 2 in the world for kidnappings for ransom, behind you may be able to guess, Mexico City. As far as hunting south of the line, hunt where you want. If you don't like it or feel safe, then don't go. Its no doubt going to be worse as time progresses, the cartels are getting more and more brave. I feel it will be less safe to spend time around the border as they become more aggressive. Unforunately for some it will be mean less time enjoying the country they enjoy for fear of happening across the cartel. The scariest post I've seen here involved what appeared to be hunters who "drew down" on a CWT member as he drove by. Sorry I can't remember who's post it was or the whole story, but it was in the same type thread about this time last year. It appears more and more bad things are going on down around the border. As with most things I fear it will only get worse before it gets better. Until then I will drive through the check points set up by the Border Patrol on my way to hunt and on my way home from the hunt.

I believe they have about 6 in custody for this in Tecate Mexico. The shooter was found with the BP issue gun and was pointed out as the shooter by the rest of the group. He was also the one who was wounded by the officer in the attack. Let us remember it can happen anywhere and always be vigilant of our surroundings, but never in fear of our surroundings. God bless the children and wife. 10-7 Brother.

I've heard quite a few legends about them as well. I know when I put the hammer down on one the pack scattered leaving me and one dead. Then again it may have been the 7mm mag hammer in the tight confines of the bottom, even if they were still close I wouldn't have heard em. They sure were a noisy bunch before the shot though, some of the strangest sounds I ever heard. The main story I hear is they are like Marines, no one gets left behind. Most the time they carry the dead off with them when they go. Like I said though I collected mine without incident.

In all honesty I started tagging along as soon as I could walk during archery hunts with my dad. Best memories from the youth was at about 4 falling asleep in dads camo jacket while he went on a stock and waking up to him freaking out that he couldnt find me. Another great memory was getting to see a great mule deer tending the heard of does. I couldn't have been more than 6 or 7 and didn't really understand why the buck was standing on his back legs behind the doe. I had one of the little red bows for kids that came with 3 wood arrows at some point and would shoot bails of hay in the backyard. Got a bow that was legal to hunt with around 10 or 11 and chased javelina around a little bit, but never connected. Got a little more serious when I was about 16 and roundabout traded a mini 14 for a Matthews MQ32 which I still use. I like many others have not connected with any deer, but could fill a book with unbelievable stories of blown stocks and missed opportunities. Thats how it goes when you spot and stalk. One day it will all come around, just a matter of being in the right place at the right time.