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5 years ago I started keeping score on the archery hunters on our farm and how they do in recovery success on eastern whitetails. It’s WAY lower then you think and way lower then anyone will admit. This is just a cross sectional analysis of random hunters allowed to hunt here. So far they have recovered 6 and lost 5 with archery and are 9 for 9 with rifle. This is just straight up did they hit it and did they find it data. The shots I will definitely say were no better with rifle, they’re just so much more destructive. Anyone who claims archery has a higher recovery rate than rifle is lying, that data has been proven false over and over. Two years ago I made everyone quit hunting with a bow out of an elevated stand as that seemed to heavily influence if they were gonna wound or not and getting everyone on the ground seemed to help some. I’m gonna keep the data going in the future as it’s the only honest hard data I’ve found albeit a small sample size.

It’s gotta be hard to field judge them with that black blob on your face.

I’ve got one around somewhere, I’ll see if I can dig it up for some pics.

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Just cut it up with a scissors so it’s all the same 😂

Can you even get regular 7828 anymore?

The difference is actually in the barrel length. The downfall to a long barrel is OAL of the rifle. Shorter action = longer barrel. Shorter actions are generally stiffer as well. But yes you are correct apples to apples if they both have the same length barrel and all things are same they should be similar.

Shorter action can allow longer barrel length with same OAL of rifle.

Yeah the extensions are great for jump shooting but honestly if it’ll hold 5-6 that’s as many as you can get off accurately on decoying birds. The shots will be far on that hunt most likely as those birds have been pressured hard. I think there’s a lot of blasting into long range flocks on those hunts. Here’s a video to get him pumped up when they do it right. IMG_4809_TRIM.mov

That’s awesome! Did he figure out how to get the magazine plug out of it yet?

This is cool as heck! If he was closer I’d hire him to fab up a bunch of shoot for the farm. Made me feel a little better about the direction our society is headed.

The NW corner of ND is about as good as it gets these days. I have a farm in central ND which is the traditional prairie pothole area. While I love it, the NR pressure has changed things so much. The birds pile up north of the border until it freezes and blow through now. We’ve got some great land to hunt and still can struggle through October. Our opener in September is fantastic as we raise a ton of ducks and our November freeze out is unreal; but in between is rough.

That’s interesting you made that move as I’ve always told people that if I won the lottery and could live in any town in the country (I’d live in the country though) I would live in Payson AZ. When I lived in the valley I always felt like it was the best blend of decent weather, close to desert and the pines and good sized town. Anyhow, I think I’d miss the winter too much though. You’re totally right, when you get it figured out it’s not bad. A heated shop and an auto start on your truck really make it easy. I grew up on a farm and my dad wasn’t a great operator so we had no heated shop and it was miserable when things would break or a car wouldn’t start etc. I still think I have permanent nerve damage jn my fingers from trying to fix stuff barefingered in -25 when the metal literally sticks to your fingers. Now that I have a heated shop it’s no biggie. Just bring it in and deal with it tomorrow in my crocs.

Minot is the third worst place in ND behind Fargo and Grand forks. Gotta get west if there. There’s a line where the sun shines more and humidity is way less. If you go an hour anmd an half east of my house and fish lake sakakawea in early March there’ll be 40” or more of ice on an average year. If you go the same distance west and fish fort peck you’re lucky if there’s even enough ice to drive an ATV on to fish in march (12” or so usually). Huge difference.

Best advice. I’ve had over a dozen beretta autos and Inagree with you on this 100%.

Point them both, they both point much different. I wouldn’t give a half loaf of bread for a SX4 as I can’t shoot them at all but all berettas except the new A400 extreme plus point like a dream for me

Having lived in MN and western ND, I will say that MN is the a55hole of the earth. Liberal govt combined with cold weather is as bad as it gets. The cold and gray over there in the winter is terrible. Western ND and Helena MT (where OP is talking ) is NOTHING like the winter in MN. Average temps will be similar but it rarely warms above freezing in MN from December to April. The high humidity and all the snow just keep it cold. It’ll get into the 40-50’s around every other week in NW ND and the snow melts off so when the sun comes out it warms up. I spent one winter in MN and I’m gonna do my best to stay as far away from that 5hithole as possible. All the bad things about a populated state (traffic, liberal govt, high taxes, crappy hunting, too many people) without the nice weather that comes along with that stuff most of the time.

I grew up on a farm, nearest town was 65 people. Went to high school 20 miles away in a town of 800. Great place to grow up. I really enjoyed growing up in a small town and still have a farm there where I try to get to on the weekends. There’s nothing in a city that I need.

I was born and raised and currently live in ND. I spent 4 years in AZ. I felt like the summers in AZ were much worse than a winter in ND. That being said I was raised here and this is what I’m used to. I felt like eirher one is miserable, but I got borderline depressed in AZ in the summer as there’s zero relief in sight, until October. In ND jn the winter, it might get down to -20 for a low for a few days but there’s always relief on the horizon. We get what they call Chinook winds and they’ll bring in some 40-50 degree days here and there throughout the winter. Sometimes weeks of it. Helena will be even warmer. You can atleast go out in it and enjoy the day. The summers I spent jn the valley, there was a 0% chance of any change in the weather, even the Monsoons just brought humidity and little relief in my opinion. As far as the hunting, MT public land hunting is not as good as AZ, BUT, you get to hunt every year. OTC rut hunting for elk and deer every year. You can very easily kill a small 6pt bull elk, and a 150-170 class muley or 135-150 class whitetail every year if you hunt a little. You can’t do that every year jn AZ with the draw. Antelope are about every other year for resident draw. AZ otc is coming to an end so if you want to hunt elk and deer every year, MT is your place. Breaks archery elk tags are every other year or so and may not offer the top end as a high end AZ elk unit, but you’ll be hunting 300-330 bulls daily in there. The bird hunting is expceptional if that’s something your into, and the fishing top notch.

Walk on at ferry terminal on the island and ride into downtown Seattle. You can work remotely while commuting that way and live in a way cooler place than anything you can get to within a drive to Seattle.

Like they were saying, everyone else has the same idea. It’s 1.5-2hr commute to anywhere in downtown Seattle from anywhere that would even come close to resembling suburbia, and 2.5hrs+ to anything that would resemble country. Honestly if I were to have to work in Downtown Seattle, I would look to live in Vashon or Bainbridge island and take the walk on ferry to work every day. My in-laws live in Tacoma and I love it there except for all the people.

Sweet. Just got one or I’d be on this.

Love albacore. Chased em off the coast in WA. Most fun I’ve ever had fishing.

Yes

Awesome! I wish I coulda got down there for a velvet bull while the gettin was good.