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I figured that was a crack at me. I never said I wouldn’t look for it, just that it raises an interesting question. I think the rule is stupid but I know for a fact that if you arrow an animal on the last day of the hunt and find it the next day and tag it and word gets out you will lose your animal. I do appreciate the fanboy attitude you have toward my posts as well as the name calling. Do you have some kind of tracker on me so every comment I make you’re able to troll?

If season is closed yes. Not sure how it would work on a OTC tag if you arrowed a buck on new year eve and then recovered it in the am. I’m guessing you’d have to tag it with you new tag

I’m not sure if it’s been said, but a tripod for your binos is the single most important tool you can have. More so then your rifle. Tasco 7x42’s on a tripod will find more game then swaro’s being hand held any day. I’d just rent a tripod and swaro 12’s from one of the rental places. 12’s will be better for you if you’re just learning to glass, 15’s can be a little short on field of view so you’ll move around too much and that exactly what you don’t want to do.

Wow. I can’t believe all the pushback on this!! Hunters have enough enemies the way it goes. We don’t need them internally. If it’s legal it’s legal. Let them hunt.

Guided or DIY? If DIY I’d stay away from the late hunts. If guided I’d do 23 late and hire the ground pounders. They shoot bulls on the late hunts that are bigger then a vast majority of the rut bulls killed in even the primo units. I don’t think you’ll be able to draw that rotating 5bs early muzzy but if you think you can I would do that especially if DIY. Just show up and start sorting through bulls. Dates will be really good on that hunt.

Yeah if there’s no barrel length limit, technically a 24” .308 mounted on a pistol lower with a brace is a legal gun for a HAM elk or javy hunt. Put a bipod on it and a good turret scope and you’ve got a 700 yard gun.

Wow!! Can’t you get an original for around $2k?

Awesome!! That rock is a different world isn’t it!?!

10pts should put you in the bonus pass for 3b archery so you won’t have a crack at the muzzy tag but will be guaranteed the archery tag.

Very true.

Sort of. The random numbers ARE the draw. So it’s not that every applicant gets one number that is entered, if you have 9 points you have 9 chances to get a low number. If you get number 13 for your lowest and there’s 10 unit 1 early rifle bull tags, and numbers 1-10 all happen to put that, you don’t get it. If numbers 1-10 all had different tags for first choice, then you get tag number 1 in that hunt. You could have a limited op easy draw tag for first choice, have a super low number that would’ve gotten you an early rifle tag in another unit, but if a bunch of people also put that same tag and had lower numbers you could get turned down (not factoring in bonus pass of course).

I take that back. It was two CVA’s. My buddy brought one over a week before a NM elk hunt. I recommended he get a TC but he wanted to save $150 so he got a CVA. Brought it to my house and it wouldn’t go off either. He ended up having to over night a TC and scramble to get it sighted in before we left. Expensive mistake but it’s also on him for not getting that all sorted out months before that, and for buying a CVA.

I’ve been around one traditions and one CVA and both had issues with the ignition system. If you absolutely crushed the trigger they would go off, but if you squeezed it lightly they wouldn’t. Same issue with both guns. Been around dozens of TC’s and never had an issue. That’s just my 2 cents.

Good lord!! That kid has already truly drawn a lifetime of awesome tags!! Let’s see some pics! I’m certain he didn’t draw that many 23 tags without slamming at least one or two toads?!?

I’m one behind max for elk, hoping a bunch of guys did what you said or I’m gonna he another 15-20 years to catch the unit I’m after.

Lotsa units with good public access in that tier. I would get OnX for your phone if you don’t already have it. Combine that with a gohunt or hunterstrailhead membership and you can cruise through and find a unit that works for you and you can draw. Remember to search for units that could be drawn with 4pts last year as that’s what you had if you want a guarantee.

Could draw 57, 64 or 68. Would’ve been enough for 61 a couple years ago but they cut the tags in half last year. Good reason to not wait around. He’ll never have the points to draw 60 but a book buck can come from any of those units.

Burn em! Should be able to get just about any hunt you want.

Does anyone make a stay on case for these yet? I’m in the same boat. Had a cool neoprene one for my STM but can’t seem to find one for the X

Yeah I don’t think if I had kids I’d get them started on such a big caliber, but I was infatuated with wildcats!! That thing knocked the piss out of me, no muzzle breaks back in those days, atleast not mainstream!! My first rifle was a ruger 77/22hornet, then a Remington 700 in .17 rem then a 25-06. So I worked my way up to the STW over several years.

My dad got me a Winchester model 70 classic sporter in 7mm STW for Christmas when I was 12. I was infatuated with the caliber after reading Layne Simpsons articles about it in shooting times over and over. I got to work handloading for it right off the bat. That was back in the pre laser rangefinder days. I loaded 120gr ballistic tips (they had just come out) at 3900fps. Could hold right on a deer out to 425 and right on their back line if you thought they were a little further. I’ve killed atleast a hundred deer with it, easterns, muleys and coues. A dozen elk or so. Moose. Oryx. Antelope. Muskox and hopefully in a week I’ll kill a free range bison with it in WY. I had it rebarreled once as I washed the old one out fairly quickly but kept the same blued sporter profile and walnut stock. It’s a beautiful gun and short of backcountry type hunts where I’ll take my Proof .28 nosler, it’s my go to rifle to this day.

I was trying to make a funny. Post reads. “fired 257 times, one Alaskan moose”. I read it as he shot one moose with it 257 times. Not sure where it went from there. Good deal on a great gun. Would make a good LR coues and elk rig.

Did you hit him all 257 times?

If you’re getting into the double barrel game for style I’d save up a little longer and look for a good used 101, citori or beretta. You can pick them up for $800-1000. The fit and finish will be better then the Turkish guns. If you’re doing it for reliability then I’d stick with an auto. I’ve been around far more guys with over and under issues then with auto issues. Three shots can come in handy a lot of the time too!! If you just want an excuse to buy a new toy then I’d go handle all the current Turkish guns (CZ, Stevens, Stoeger etc) and see which one fits and looks best. Make sure you can get it in 28” barrel minimum and better yet 30”. Most people don’t realize they aren’t comparing apples to apples with doubles. The receiver on most shotguns is 6+” long so a 26” double barrel has less sighting plane then a tactical riot pump or auto. Only double barrel I have has 32” barrels and I think they’re too short. That being said I shoot a beretta auto most of the time with a 30” barrel custom ordered on it.

I’ve researched 40 a bit to burn my 20 elk points on a muzzy tag. From what I can find Biggerstaff and Mike Lawson are the only two options. $7000-9000 each for only 5 day hunts. I just can’t stomach the thought of dumping that kinda cash on a 5 day hunt while still having to burn 20 points to chase bulls that aren’t as big as they have in 4b. I will never catch 10, 2 or 201 but there has to be a better option. I think Sea2er is right too, they are definitely booked out a bit and won’t take a deposit till you have one point over what it took the previous year.