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I called that before you even said it, again reread my post. If you have a problem with the way an organization handles their finances then address that, they’re having a budget shortfall, they said that and were upfront with that when they sold these chances and tags. There’s more to a budget then most people understand. I get sick of hearing over and over about the “new truck” thing. Seriously? You must have never run a business as the most expensive thing out there is manpower. You can’t have some intern biologist sitting on the side of the road tinkering on a broke down pickup. I run 3 different businesses and all three run new or nearly new equipment. Can’t think of a friend of mine with a successful business that doesn’t run it that way. Maintaining some equity in vehicles and trading regularly is predicable and the least expensive way to operate when your workforce is in remote locations and likely doesn’t have a mechanical background.

I guess I don’t know why everyone is so worked up about the game and fish having money. They literally work to make our hunting what it is. If there’s any agency out there that we want flush with cash it’s them. If you are concerned with the accountability of their budget then that’s a totally different thing and needs to be addressed as such. The fact of the matter is if we have a voluntary fundraiser that can raise a ton of money to benefit all of us this is a win win. Everyone has a chance and no one HAS to pay it. If you look at the hunt proposals in the off season every year the tag increases by unit are in green, there’s literally thousands of green numbers (tags added to various units) some year and no one bats an eye. You suggested that somehow adding 100 tags in the entire state across all species to raise $16.5mil is somehow ludicrous and I look at that and see an absolute win for everyone!! Those 100 animals could create opportunity for thousands more in access, habitat restoration, water hauling etc. Bring them on if you ask me.

It’s 6 critters and it raised $300,000. The population can survive. If they can pay for chaining 1 section of land with it (this will pay for so much more then that) those 6 bucks and bulls will be easily made up. More bucks and bulls get clipped by creedmoors to go die in the brush somewhere never to be seen again in any given 15 minutes of the season then this will kill.

Silencer central will let you stretch it out while your paperwork is being processed.

I think he got 6 free sandwiches for that.

You’ve heard of documented legit cases of people losing their hunting and fishing privileges for having one too many dove or one too many fish? I was always under the impression those were non criminal offenses unless an exorbitant amount over limit and only punishable with a citation and fine?

Some good advice. I did the silencer central route and just went to a gun show they were at and they did everything g digitally right there. Took about 15 min. I bought a rifle can, 22 can, shotgun can and a SBR 300 blackout with an integral can. It took 12 months for them. I ended up ordering another rifle can as I am all aboard with using them for everything now and wanted a backup. I’m going on 10 months now with the second one so they aren’t getting any faster. My advice is buy a bunch of them and do it ASAP.

They had to be after him for something else, the penalties for everything G&F related are so light this seems steep for something so small. If he didn’t have permits at all on that forest then that makes more sense. The may have made it stick on the lying on the form thing but the real problem was the lack of permits? Guessskng more to this story.

Ranchers don’t wreck roads nearly as bad as hunters. I don’t know about you but the general elk and deer hunts I’ve been on the road traffic of hunters vs ranchers 100:1. I guess my take home is there was absolutely zero reason for them to let people on there and only negatives for the landowner.

Yeah. You ever paid to maintain a road? It’s expensive as heck. Trash pick up is too. In an ideal world these hunters would police themselves on rutting roads and destroying the place but we all know that doesn’t happen. The liability insurance alone that place must have is gotta cost more then their revenue from hunters.

That’s the way of the west though unfortunately. Tens of millions of acres across the west in the same boat. In AZ the Baca Float has a ton of checkerboard as well. It’s complete BS but unless they over turn the corner crossing rule (currently going into a high court right now) there’s no way. Here in ND a section line is considered public right of way so not only can you corner hop, you can actually walk down a section line across private as long as you stay on it and don’t actively “hunt” but that’s a state by state deal.

It’s a slow but sure progression. I’m not for it, was just surprised it lasted as long as it did. The next thing coming down the pipe is private land tags. Those Indians are sitting on a few million a year in revenue for the elk and antelope they have and they will get that extracted, it’s just a matter of time. Again I’m not saying I’m for it or that it’s good by any means, was just exclaiming that I can’t believe it lasted as long as it did. I watched guys complain about the “greedy” owners because they had to pay $85 and couldn’t drive their side by side where ever they wanted. They were being so generous by allowing that access for free and for pay. You don’t even come close to scratching the surface of the cost of ownership of that land at $85 a person access fee even if you sell thousands.

I wondered when this day was gonna get here. Honestly can’t believe they put up with all the bullshit they did for as long as they did. I’m gonna get flamed for this but I’ve never seen a place with such lack of respect for private land ownership as I did in AZ. Everyone was losing their minds they had to pay $85 to have full run of a half a billion dollar ranch like it was some kind of inconvenience to them.

Whoa. Dream ran right there. Everything about him is just perfect!

I honestly factor that stuff in when I put in for raffles etc. I drew a PIW nevada deer tag that had a 1:1200 chance that year for $10. I remember thinking “that’s a $120,000 deer tag so if I were to draw it for $10 at those odds it’s way better then Vegas or lotto”. I’m pretty sure if I won the lotto I’d spend every penny on enhancement tags so it’s the same difference!

In all honesty, if I drew one of them you guys would have to hear about it. I’m on the carhartt and Coors light prostaff so I’d have to rep their stuff of course.

Damnit. With a title like that I really thought this was gonna be start of a flat brim hero Instagram thread with pics of the tag, reflection of a fire on a wall tent, some Kuiu solids and Mtn Ops strategically placed, you know the story of a dirt nap dealer who drew the ultimate tag for his Instagram fame.

With any luck. The only thing better then a fundraising special tag draw is one where people pay the cost of entry and then don’t kill the critter!!!

I wouldn’t go over 15x in a 56-60mm bino. The only reason vortex ever made 18’s was to try to get people to bite on the gimmick that somehow 18 is better then 15 because it’s bigger. You want to keep your ratio of power to objective diameter as close to 1:4 as possible. (Ex 8x32, 10x40, 15x60 etc). If you drop below that you’re not letting the amount of light through that is necessary for your eye to work to its fullest. I personally would sell those Vortex as a new pair as it sounds like they are and then buy a pair of swaro 15 HD’s. You will never regret it and if you are hard up for cash someday you’ll get dang near what you paid for them in a hurry.

Dang. That’s wild! I’ve had that happen gradually over a few years and always thought it was manure eating things away but I guess they can just break down too!

I’ve got over a dozen trailers between my boats and farm trailers. I just don’t jack my pickups up. I get 3/4” less clearance better mileage and don’t have to worry about it rolling over and killing my family on an icy road. I just don’t look as bada55 I guess.

These usually come with a pair of white Oakley Gas Cans, a flatty and a pack of extra small condoms don’t they?

I agree with Casey, been using my sportsman ID for a decade and a half. Have it memorized. When I go in and it asks me for a frickin number I put that in. I apply in a dozen states. Some call it a sportsman id some call it a hunter Id some a user Id, but what none of the other states do is force you to use their porthole and then not even use it for their frickin draw. That doesn’t even make sense. I have no customer ID btw. Looked into it. I have a 9 digit sportsman ID that is not my SS but have no idea how to get this so called customer ID. Oh well. Guess I made a donation 🤷🏼

They must have just mixed my phone number around. There’s no way I didn’t draw that late 21-24 coues hunt.

How’d they find out? I’m gonna assume no news is bad news?