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All good advice. If you’re renting a car be sure there’s a spare and jack as you’ll probably wreck a tire if you climb out of the flats anywhere. There’s deer all over that unit and plenty of hammock trees in the canyons.

So is this sold or what’s the story? Interested in it.

Probably something worse like 4b.

Great pics! That drop tine buck with the eye guards made me tent up a little.

I drew a red desert tag in WY 3-4 years back and had a great time and killed my personal best buck. I’ve been blessed with 2 AZ archery tags and killed two bucks that are very different shape but both scored within 1/8” of each other. I’ve killed three antelope in NM with rifle on landowner and draw tags. This is the best one. I burned a few points in colorado a couple years back and killed a nice buck with an open sight muzzy. That was a fun hunt! I live 15 minutes from the Montana line and have been lucky enough to get tags almost every year. My brother killed a good one in there last year but most of them are smallish but if you think antelope is good, you need to try antelope that have been eating alfalfa, peas, lentils and soybeans all summer! My home state of ND used to have OTC archery tags and my buddies and I used to give them heck back in the pre rangefinder days. I killed 3-4 of them with bow and drew a couple rifle tags. After a bad winter in 2013 I believe they shut all antelope hunting down and finally opened it a few years ago. I have 12-13 points and may draw soon. The first year they opened it was awesome. My brother killed this awesome 3 pronged buck that was the oldest antelope I’ve ever seen. They’ve shot the top end of since though. If you can’t tell, I LOVE antelope hunting. I’ve been fortunate enough to kill 15 antelope and have marching orders from my wife to make sure I kill atleast one every year in the future!

I’ll take it if it falls through.

“Here’s a guy….” I always liked him. Sad to hear but 85 for a guy in his shape is a dang good run.

Whoa!! Tough tag to draw! Congrats! Hunted it one time with my brother and we got a giant blizzard and never saw a sheep. I don’t think they killed a single one that year. I’ve heard of the giant rams in there though!

Have you hunted up there? The salts are just spread out wherever they can get them. Atleast the ones I was around when I was there, there was very little reason for that salt to be there other then that was where the salt was. That being said, from what I understand the guy in this video showed up after a guy was already set up on said salt. In that case, a polite wave and move on is the right thing to do regardless of whose salt it is.

I’m assuming these are not the newest model EL Range TA with the right hand button?

Yeah I could be wrong but I don’t think there’s even any grazing along that boundary. There’s really no fence so I don’t think they could keep cattle out of the park.

Would you take 3 wheatgrass smoothies in trade? JK. This is a good deal on some (I’m assuming) highly sought after brass!

I think you and I agree on a lot of points here. I guess the one thing that keeps coming around that bothers me is the whole “cut them out of the unit if they don’t comply thing”. I honestly agree with making it it’s own unit (essentially like the Baca float) but they need to be provided with some tags just as the multi unit hunt on the Baca is. Every other state out there provides some sort of tit for tat landowner system that shows appreciation for protecting and managing big game in exchange for access. Some are more favorable to the landowner and others the public, but completely shutting down all big game hunting (because they won’t play by the “rules”) on a ranch that’s larger then most big game units is overreach IMO. I can’t imagine owning a ranch in AZ and never having been able to kill an elk on it due to inability to draw a tag, let alone not even allowing hunting on it because they didn’t follow the governments forced hand at access. The game and fish’s job is to manage the herd, and just deciding that a giant piece of land doesn’t need any big game harvest sets a scary precedent about big game management in the future. If the antis get ahold of that nugget of info (that it’s OK to just not hunt entire units) that gives them major weaponry against any and all claims that legal hunting is a management tool. Thin ice if you ask me.

So what if the owners of the ranch (Navajo) were able to annex the ranch into the reservation. Then you’re back to cool with them shutting down access and smoking big bucks and bulls for big dollars? That’s just a paperwork change and a color on a map ya know. The take home is it’s their land, their choice. You’re cool with it if it’s dark yellow on Onx and it’s sovereign nation land but not if it’s private on Onx? Only difference is some of it we stole and gave back to them and the other stuff we stole and they bought it back.

So let me get this straight, you think that any private land in the state of AZ should have the animals herded off of it and a high fence put up around it to keep the state owned critters off of it? Or do you just want that on this one ranch? We fencing off rezs too? Herding their elk off (they aren’t gonna like that )? How about your yard, fence that off too? Again where do we draw this line of property right pillaging? Just big ranches that we used to have unrestricted access to? Or small ones too?

Dang. So where do you guys draw the line with property rights? If it’s your private backyard and you want to exercise your right to privacy on it that’s ok I guess. That’s a small acreage you say? Well where to do draw the line? 5 acres? 50? 500? Ok. So just 50,000 acres pieces of PRIVATELY owned land? That’s the only ones you want the government to blackmail access out of the owner by “shutting down” hunting on it?!? Seriously? Must be a lot of Biden stickers stuck next to CWT stickers on the backs of trucks from what I’m reading on here…. The epitome of government overreach is me telling YOU what you can and can’t do on your own land. That’s literally what democrats do. Just to stop the “it’s half state land” argument before it even starts. That’s the way checkerboard works. If you want to change that then work on that, the land they are dealing with on access is PRIVATE land!! It happens to landlock some sweet state land and that’s the way the west has been since the 1870’s. It sucks but it’s true. Either lobby for change in corner crossing and then strap your boots on and hike through it, or get a job and buy some land with checker board locked land in it. That’s the cool thing about the America I know and love, there’s NOTHING stopping you from doing that.. except maybe democrats (and a bunch of CWT members from the sound of it) angling for your private land rights when you buy it. 🤷🏼

Good gun and good price. These can be updated by arrowhead to use BH209 for a few hundred bucks. Great way to get into the LR muzzy game.

Meme stolen. Thank you.

I’ve got a banish 30, a banish 22 and another banish 30 on the way. No experience with the omega so can’t give you pros and cons but I like the banish 30. I looked at the gold instead on my second one as it’s QR but it’s longer then the regular banish 30 and I felt like every inch counts when it comes to suppressed rifles as you take a huge hit on velocity dropping to a 18-22” barrel to make it a reasonable hunting length.

I called that before you even said it, again reread my post. If you have a problem with the way an organization handles their finances then address that, they’re having a budget shortfall, they said that and were upfront with that when they sold these chances and tags. There’s more to a budget then most people understand. I get sick of hearing over and over about the “new truck” thing. Seriously? You must have never run a business as the most expensive thing out there is manpower. You can’t have some intern biologist sitting on the side of the road tinkering on a broke down pickup. I run 3 different businesses and all three run new or nearly new equipment. Can’t think of a friend of mine with a successful business that doesn’t run it that way. Maintaining some equity in vehicles and trading regularly is predicable and the least expensive way to operate when your workforce is in remote locations and likely doesn’t have a mechanical background.

I guess I don’t know why everyone is so worked up about the game and fish having money. They literally work to make our hunting what it is. If there’s any agency out there that we want flush with cash it’s them. If you are concerned with the accountability of their budget then that’s a totally different thing and needs to be addressed as such. The fact of the matter is if we have a voluntary fundraiser that can raise a ton of money to benefit all of us this is a win win. Everyone has a chance and no one HAS to pay it. If you look at the hunt proposals in the off season every year the tag increases by unit are in green, there’s literally thousands of green numbers (tags added to various units) some year and no one bats an eye. You suggested that somehow adding 100 tags in the entire state across all species to raise $16.5mil is somehow ludicrous and I look at that and see an absolute win for everyone!! Those 100 animals could create opportunity for thousands more in access, habitat restoration, water hauling etc. Bring them on if you ask me.

It’s 6 critters and it raised $300,000. The population can survive. If they can pay for chaining 1 section of land with it (this will pay for so much more then that) those 6 bucks and bulls will be easily made up. More bucks and bulls get clipped by creedmoors to go die in the brush somewhere never to be seen again in any given 15 minutes of the season then this will kill.

Silencer central will let you stretch it out while your paperwork is being processed.

I think he got 6 free sandwiches for that.