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I’ll try to work my way through them. Let me know if I miss any. You are correct. Some will draw in the random pool. You get one point per year if not drawing. So statistically someone with 10 points is 10x more likely to draw then you with zero. While you can get lucky, there are VERY limited tags for September firearms hunts so the supply is tiny and the demand huge. The rough odds (apps vs tags is in the back of the book) I would say sheep tags are hardest followed VERY closely by September firearms elk hunts and firearm antelope hunts then strip deer and late kaibab deer tags. All of these you can expect 20+ Points right now but they creep up about a point a year so it’s very realistic that all the aforementioned tags will take 30-50 points in the future. Essentially people need to die in order for the demand to fall. Group apps are averaged. If you have 2 and your buddy 4 then your app goes in as a single app with 3 points. So it betters one guy and hurts the other. Kids are same story.

I’d get the tag then worry about the hunt. If you’re just starting out you’re probably about 30-35 years out for an early muzzy tag at the rate things are inflating.

Great work as usual!! I wanna be like Tessa when I grow up.

Check the powerlines……..

My cousin has a friend who works at the game and fish and she said they are switching some stuff around with the draw this year and it won’t be out until mid May.

I hunted the October cow hunt right after that. Unreal seeing those big ponderosas uprooted and tossed about. Root balls on them as big as a bus!!

Just be glad AZ has picked some units for opportunity and left some for trophy areas. It’s a great blend. I can promise you your chance of shooting a 6pt bull in 22 is SIGNIFICANTLY better then nearly all units in Colorado, Montana, or Utah. In a vast majority of the elk hunting world, a raghorn is a trophy and hunting all week in the rut might yield getting to hear a few bugles. I’ve spent a little time in 22 in the rut and it was a shoot show of rutting activity. Maybe not on par with 1, 3, 9,10, 23, or 27 but still a world class elk hunting experience that you can’t get in most of the country.

He’ll draw whichever allows it in the bonus pass.

There any powerlines?

They’re $3199 and that’s MAP pricing so unless you’re getting some kind of pro staff discount that’s what they cost. Add in another $200-300 for sales tax and someone can save $400-500 with these. I know I wouldn’t sell mine for $3k.

Yeah they won’t even let me fill a rifle tag with a crossbow here in ND. You can fill it with any lesser weapon (bow, muzzy etc) except a crossbow. I’m trying to burn my elk points in WY and could use a crossbow but that probably doesn’t justify a $2500 crossbow and $1000 scope.

Nice mature buck. Honestly looks like a 3x3 with a top fork on the one side and front fork on the other side. His beams look super super short, either broke or just that way. Not a buck to shoot and have expectations of scoring anything but definitely a shooter in OTC archery! I’d say he’ll have a real hard time clearing 140 and is probably in the mid to low 130’s. He’s probably the biggest looking 130-140” muley I’ve ever seen though.

I have essentially no use for this thing but am still intrigued by it and feel like I should buy a crossbow just to put it on.

I’m on 14 months with my current wait through them so don’t get your hopes up.

I’ve shot my .28 nosler without earplugs suppressed and never noticed it being abnormally loud.

I hope everyone has that attitude!!

Normally I’d tell people to actually search the points they had last year to see if they’ll draw but in the case of these hunts there’s a lot of tags and not much demand so the point creep isn’t out of control.

You could draw 7e or 11m September archery. 3b November muzzy or a 4,5,6,7 or 8 late rifle tag. Just depends on what you want out of your hunt. Should be able to kill a bull on any of those if you aren’t super picky.

If you’re gonna hire a guide I’d put in for 23n 1st and 23s 2nd. Or vice versa. They added some tags in there so you might pick off either one in the max pass. Then hire the Ground Pounders and go shoot a giant bull.

Which weapon? Looks like you could only draw 7e or 11m for September archery. You could get any November archery tag. Late rifle you can get pretty much any of the units except the alternative management units (1, 3a/c, 23, 27, 9, 10). Muzzy, most of the late but none of the early. If you can’t pass a raghorn type bull they are availabale in any unit so just pick one with a weapon you know you can get it done on and go hunting. I personally would go to CO and hunt a OTC area and knock a small bull off my bucket list and save my AZ points did a unit and hunt that can produce a big bull more consistently.

Just because they’re words doesn’t mean they’re used correctly.

*Incompetence* Anyone else see the irony?

Easy. You just gotta stick your face down in the “V”…….

I actually like 4b. Had a 380-390 bull on cam there when I had that tag years ago.

With 23 points, 4b late rifle should be a lock.