Loner

Thanks for your $.02. The henge on the Kiababs does not get close enough together to get a complete view. The SLC's fit good and they would be my first choice, just not going to be able to spring for them anytime soon. My main concern on the Vipers is the focus factor and eye fatigue. I have heard of guys having these issues in the past. Also The Vipers have "HD" glass as do the Kiababs, so whats the big difference between the Vipers and the Kiababs components that makes the kiababs twice the cost? The Kaibabs have a bigger objective then the Vipers. This will gather more light and the eye relief on the Kaibabs is better. The "HD" component is an extra lens in the bino to correct chromatic aberration. Besides the bigger objective the biggest difference and most important is the quality of the glass. The Kaibab's use a better quality glass then the Viper HD.

I think the best sign is fresh diggings at the base of plants or open areas close by with roots underneath. This almost always means you're in the right place. I even glass for these dug up areas then go inspect to see how fresh they are. Funny how barrel cactus look like javelina rumps.

I am looking for something to do untill Javelina season. I usually fish the Salt or Gila river for cats, but never in winter. Will they bite this time of year or should i stick with quail? Thanks, Loner

This buck has nice paddles and was as big as a forky mule deer, well over 100# gutted. Still has lots of velvet. Congrats to all who filled their tags. Loner

Thanks for the info Coach.

Can I get to the Salt River Canyon Bridge @ US 60 from Cherry Creek. I tried to get through on Sunday from IR 29/ FR 94, but it was raining and sleeting and i chickened out about 3 miles onto the Res. I have a 4x4 crew cab long bed but the road was narrow and it was along way down. (I did have my Res. permit) So if anyone has ever been that way please let me know what you think. Thanks, Loner

Cactusjack, How do you like your LFR 1200 Leicas? A friend wants me to buy his so I thought I'd ask. Loner

I hunted every weekend of last years Dec. hunt and never saw any sign of rutting, all the bucks but one were alone. That was my first late hunt so I cant compare it to other years. Took a small fork on the last day who was with his mama. Was it a late start for last years rut?? (se unit) Loner

Do turkey respond to calling during the fall season? I can not remember hearing any gobbling during fall elk hunts. Do you hunt the same as you would in the spring? Thanks

Thanks for the info. Loner

Does anyone know if the road to Blue is open? Is there still snow up around Blue/ Alpine? Thanks, Loner

Can some one tell me how good or bad the 29 road from the Salt River canyon to the Cherry Creek road is? Will I need 4 wheel drive? Can I pull a trailer through? How long will it take to travel? Any info will be appreciated. Thanks, Loner

Thank you all very much for the info. This is my first new big game rifle and I want to treat it right. Thanks again.

I just got my new rifle in and bore sighted w/ new scope. When sighting in on the range how long should I wait between shots for the barrel to cool? Just go by feel? Any other advice on sighting in a new rifle is appreciated. Thanks, Loner

Went scouting in 30B Sat & Sun. There are some good camping spots on FR 687 on the west side of the Dragoons. Did lots and lots of glassing and could only come up with one doe. I will be going a few more time before the Dec hunt. Would be happy to trade info with other scouters. Has any one ever hunted down in the Mule Mts? Is access as tough as stated in the rules and regs? Loner