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That smell don't have anything to do with the meat. If you are wise you skin those stinky critters where they fall being careful not to get the smell all over yourself. Once the hide is off your left with some pretty tasty meat. Don't make the mistake of carrying the darn thing with the hide on. That smell will get all over you and your pack and everything else the hide touches and then even prime rib won't taste the same and your camp-mates may just run you out of camp! couesdiehard

Not well, Didn't even get out til yesterday (Sunday). Left home at 3 am and drove down. Checked out a road in the dark that I've been wanting to see forever. Set up on a hill overlooking 2 canyons with tanks in the bottoms and waited for the horny bucks to show themselves. As the sun came up I saw immigrant trails and trash everywhere. All I saw was 2 does with fawns. No rut activity at all. Not even any pigs. I felt pretty sick, cell phone was dead and I was alone so I packed up about 3 pm and went home. How did everyone else do this weekend? couesdiehard

Good luck to you TREESTANDMAN! I really don't care if I shoot a pig. It's an excuse to go hunt bucks. Now next month my son has a jr. javelina hunt in 36A/C and then I will be motivated to get him his first animal. couesdiehard

Congrats on a tremendous buck! Good luck to your friend but this will be tough to top. Hope all you Dec. rifle hunters leave some of the big boys out there for us Jan. bowhunters to chase around! couesdiehard

Jeff; You just sounded like a man who would try to walk real fast and scare a coues to death rather than sit still and look for them. Heck dude, how many azyoungs could have taken their sons to 36A on a youth hunt in Dec.? Told Ed I thought that was you and we just read your response a bit ago. Awesome year for Riley and for you. If you can post some of those 29 pictures that would be great! I e-mailed my photos of this year's dink and the story to Amanda so she can post them. I have an archery pig tag in 36A/B/C next month and my 14-year old Mark has a pig tag (Jr) in 36A/C in Feb. So I am going to pick up my archery deer tag and make a few trips down there during January. Anyway great to hear from you! Tell coyoung to get logged on soon. I'm still haven't convinced old Red to loggon yet. Lee(couesdiehard)

tthrasher; Welcome to the forum. You're gonna love it! I sent you a PM(personal message) giving you a few clues. Hope they help. couesdiehard

Hey azyoung; You wouldn't by any chance be Jeff? This is Lee couesdiehard

Stanley, I hear you! I am anxious to get my son his first big-game animal especially since he has taken such a late interest in it and I don't want him to get discouraged. He's 14. We didn't do well on his cow elk hunt last month so I am happy for the chance to redeem myself. Good luck to you and your son. Lee

No turkey tag! Of course during my wife and sons cow elk hunt I saw more turkey than ever. In the bright side I did get archery javelina in 36A,B, & C for the month of January. I guess I will be hunting coues again in Jan instead of desert carp! And my son got drawn for a junior's javelina tag in 36A & C 2/4/-2/10. I am going to keep my eyes out for the pigs starting this Friday when my general Coues hunt starts in 36B! Good luck to all

Hey guys I think the La Gitana bar has a grill too. Never eaten there but it might be worth a try. It's right in beautiful downtown Arivaca across from the mercantile. I might just try to make this shindig! I'd like to put faces to some of these names and see how your hunt has gone until that point. I'll keep checking to see if we nail down the location. Lee

Won't be able to get away from this new job of mine until that Thursday morning. Will set up camp with my dad and pick the hill I want to be on top of opening morning. firstcoueswas80 and sczoner I did not fall off the earth but I have been busy as heck and sick. I need to e-mail you guys tomorrow. Good luck to one and all. Just don't shoot the one I staked out! couesdiehard

Ernesto C; Say it ain't so brother! Are you telling Trophy Taker not to shoot Barnes bullets? Am I just reading this wrong? If you start trash talking my Barnes bullets I going to have to brush off my soap-box and start speechifyin'! couesdiehard

sczoner, Exactly, what I was thinking last year when we were camped off the Ruby Rd about 2 miles north of there. Sitting through 3 days of hard rain thinking I have to go check that country out. Just never got there last year. A couple of my buddies did but they got drenched and our experience has been that when it rains hard those ghosts hold tight. Funny that reminded me of how we stood around a campfire one night in our raingear as it poured down on us. We realized that we had discovered the bottomless beer can as we watched rain pour off our hats into the cans refilling them as fast as we could drink them. Man I can't wait to get back down there. Talk to you later, couesdiehard

sczoner; I understand that the road doesn't go very far back into that 2nd area that's why I was interested. What did you think of that country? couesdiehard

sczoner and firstcoueswas80; Something must have gone wrong with the e-mails I sent over the weekend. Just sent you both new e-mails today. couesdiehard

Hey sczoner & firstcoueswas80; I sent both of you guys e-mails. I didn't want to let everyone on the site know all the places in 36B where we will NOT be seeing deer! couesdiehard

firstcoueswas80; I am right there with you man! 36B stinks! Think just give all those tags out in Nov to collect money from suckers. Everyone knows the few deer that are in 36B are herded out of there to 36A & C in early October and held in pens there until the end of December. Oh yeah, what do you drive? I remember that you and I both got drawn for this stinking unit in Nov. again, and I'd like to B.S. with you some more about the lousy unit if I see you in 36B this Nov. I'll either be in a new gold Dodge Ram 2500 or a lifted white 1990 Surburban. Sczoner you can't take anyone here too seriously. We're a bunch of jokers. Tell me what you are driving and I'll look for you too. couesdiehard

Grande Bear, Luckily there are a couple of experts on this web-site who could answer that question. Kirk Kelso is on this forum a lot and knows the rules. Also you could contact Duwane Adams who advertises on the web-site also. Better to get your answers from folks who make a living following the rules than guessing or listening to some wild stories. couesdiehard

Ditto what Newbee says! I bought my Parker package from Corner Archery and they are top-shelf folks. Knowledgeable, nice selection, hunters, indoor shooting range, etc. I don't think you would disappointed. They carry a pretty large selection of bows and will gladly let you comparison shoot. Good luck.

Amanda; I haven't gotten out near as much as I had planned yet this year so I am also curious about the fawn survival. I had high hopes for the next couple of years because last Nov in 36B I saw more fawns than I had seen in any of the previous 8. Also every fawn I saw was a twin. I was hoping that trend would continue and the rains would fall this year. My hopes are not so high now with the drought showing little sign of relenting.

Just my 2 cents worth... Do yourself a favor and at least shoot a Parker bow. I bought an Outfitter Package from them a couple years ago and I can't screw up a shot with it. The Outfitter packages include the bow, carbon arrows, sight, quiver, rest, wrist-sling, and mechanical release and the whole package is pre-tuned and sighted in right out of the package. These are not the wildest new fangled bows on the market but they get very respectable speeds, and they shoot like a dream. I have been very satisfied with mine and even though like every stick shooter I have since added and changed many accessories my Parker has always been easy to re-sight and has stayed tuned like no other bow I've seen.

sczoner; Lots of coues in 36B, also tons of hunters. Check out a Coronado National Forest Map-Nogales Ranger District and try to check out as much country as you can before the hunt. It might be helpful to do some driving around during the Oct hunt Oct 29 - Nov 1 to get an idea of where the crowds will be in Nov. Good Luck!

azcoueshuntr - check out page 67 of the fall hunt regs, bottom left corner of the page. It explains pretty well that if drive around until you see the animal you want to harvest then make an attempt to take, you are violating the law. The key is in A.R.S. 17-301 B,(which is actually on page 50) it states that "a person shall not take wildlife....from a motor vehicle" and in the definitions on that same page "take" is defined as "pursuing, shooting, hunting..." So if you cruise roads to look for game to pursue you are in violation. Would your father qualify for a Challenged Hunter Access/Mobility Permit (CHAMP)? See page 60.

Scottyboy you nailed it. I wish these folks weren't sneaking across the border myself and I also wish they weren't trashing such beautiful country on their way. I can tell you this much though, I don't want to think how bad the economy would have to be here in the States for me to decide to go through half of what most of these folks will go through to work a job that I sure don't want at a pay that I couldn't support my family on anyway! I agree whole-heartedly that a very small percentage of the border crossers are really bad characters and they are generally drug and people smugglers. Again neither the workers or the smugglers would have any reason to murder someone like this that I can think. It seems like some folks just let their fears get the best of them and illegal aliens are an easy bunch to point fingers at. If you really want to stop illegal immigration you just have to stop golfing, buying meals, produce, houses, etc. that creates the low-paying jobs that no citizen can afford to take or wants. I really can't understand why these hard-working folks are hated so much. They generally work like mules, get paid like serfs, and barely ever make a wimper. They die in the desert, are held for ransom, are beaten, stolen and killed; all for a minimum wage job. We should create a legal way for them to work here. I'll get off my soap-box now and offer another theory on this lousy murder. I think it may come out that if it wasn't someone this poor guy knew they will find that it was one or more drifters. There are plenty of them in that country, squatting where they can and we can all remember on more than one occasion where drifters have taken advantage of catching someone in an isolated area and robbed and/or killed them.

I only drew deer 36B in Nov. No antelope No elk My son was skunked on deer. But he and my wife were drawn for cow elk in 3C-W.