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how much money do they get from the open gate program? that is exactly my question. do they get a check once a month/year from the state or do they have to submit invoices for reimbursement on expenses they had that were related to wildlife habitat? once you know how much money you are talking for the average rancher on both sides of the equation you will know if it is equal or not.

the line I like is "He’s not a racist, but he is annoyed and disappointed when people of certain backgrounds exhibit behavior that typifies the worst stereotypes of their race. He’s willing to give everybody a fair chance if they work hard, play by the rules and learn English."

TAM - so lets see some pics of those goats!

Jason - along Doug's lines - you really have to throw the LO tags out. those are left to the free market to determine who they end up with and what price they are sold for. If you chose not to throw those out, then you need to be thinking about an alternative. Would you propose and support mandating that the ranchers are only allowed to sell 22% of their LO tags to NR? What kind of financial hit would this be to the ranchers? Enough for them to say to heck with this I do not want to participate anymore? In which case, the number of tags in your scenario would go down from 100 to 40. This could possibly lead to an overpopulation of antelope, NM could then get hit with a severe winter or drought and there could be a significant die off due to starvation. Is this better than more of the tags going to NR? I understand your frustration, trust me I do. Last year I questioned > 50% of the AZ Super Raffle winners being NR. Guess what, it is all supply and demand. If more NR buy raffle tickets, more NR are going to win. If NM residents are not willing to buy LO antelope tags than NR are going to. good luck. don't let things like this keep you up at night.

I know some guys that did this last year and they basically drove up to the animals and shot them in the ear hole at like 30 yards.

here is a different coloration of this buck.

unfortunately this pic was taken before the days of digital cameras. it is probably one of my best scenery pictures. it is of the okefenokee swamp in GA just along the GA-FL border.

here is a cool pic I got of the moon during a sunrise this last jan in MX

come talk to me when you graduate.

yep - we ALL know what you did there buddy - that's what happens when you try to cram Paul Bunyan's brain into Wilbur the Wildcat's head - OUCH

"and you know what that thing can do!" should I be the first? no I will defer.

just got the cabelas flier in the mail today. they are having a sale this weekend and there is a leupold range finder in their for $220 ($50 off). only thing is it only goes up to 750 yards. you 1,000 yard shooters need something further than that.

how about "I'm your 257 huckleweatherberry" - Doc Holiday

I guess you need to clarify a little about what you mean by long range. are you talking 500 yards or 1,000. if you are talking 500 for coues the 257 weatherby would be a great round. if you are talking 1,000 then you need to be thinking about a 300 ultra mag, weatherby mag or 30-378. of course the 308 is still the unbeaten round for competition shooting. for a rifle you probably can not go wrong (for the price) with any of the rem 700 rifles. I just got a rem 700 XCR in 300 wsm and got a 2.5 inch group at 400 yards 2 weeks ago when I was at the range. and that was with factory ammo. other quality rifles (in my opinion) are the Kimbers and Sakos. for a scope, leupold, zeiss, nikon. target turrets or bdcs will work either way. I use a nikon bdc. probably the most important thing is to spend time at the range. you need to find the ammo that shoots best in your rifle and know where your hitting. then it is just practice, practice and then practice some more. I also have a christensen rifle in 7mm rem mag and have found that with that carbon barrel I can shoot pretty much anything in it and get a good group. let us know what you decide on and good luck.

congrats on a great bull and a nice story. you mention doing homework until 3:00 am, it is my understanding that the teachers at the junior college you are attending do not assign homework.

"no requirement to wake before dawn" ??? what kind of hunter are you ??? gotta get out there with your glow sticks and get those birds before they can see what the heck is going on - even things up a little bit. if we could fly then I would say go ahead and sleep in but since we can't you gotta use everything at your disposal. JK - as usual great pics and great story Doug. Sounds like a good time - minus the camp fire of course.

I know someone that used it last summer. Set it out in the morning with a trail cam and got a pic of a deer hitting it that night.

cuatro cazadores, cinco venadoes y mucho hueso. 90 - 99 - 101 - 104 - 115

thanks Jim and your welcome! it sure was a good week. I am glad you had such a good time and were able to take such an incredible buck!!! I will never underestimate an armadillo again. post up those other pics I sent you and I will add the scores if you can not remember them. chris.

nikon monarchs but more than likely you will be buying better ones later on - we've all done it.

yes I have already been warned about the risks (explosions) associated with driving off road on the range and thus the recommend to get a game hauler. additionally, I am aware that it is possible I may get one down in a spot that is not accessable by vehicle. thanks for the recommend on the pieces of hose. I will make sure I add that to my list.

escorted? I haven't checked to see what kind of escort services they have out of Socorro. I will be on the Stallion range.

this is a good caliber, a good gun and a good price. http://forums.coueswhitetail.com/forums/in...?showtopic=7893

is the coconino volunteer fire dept on alert? better be careful with all those candles or the cabin and surrounding pines may go up in a poof! have a good one

anyone know when Jim is going to be back from MX? probably not until next weekend I would guess.