SunDevil

I am not positive but I also think there is a summer league. The other league's I spoke of go year round. The summer league is for all ages and usually includes kids that just graduated and/or kids that play college ball and are home for the summer. It is usually pretty competitive because you get the college players.

the only baseball leagues I know of are an over 30 league and an over 40 league. they only play their games on Sunday.

yea - nice garden

usually they are good company when sitting around the campfire in the evening but poor Rica has to endure campfire envy when she is taken out.

I think one would have to spend a lot (and when I say a lot, I mean A LOT) of time behind their optics to really tell any difference between (in alphabetical order) Leica, Nikon, Swarovski and Zeiss. More than anything, it probably comes down to ergonomic differences and each individuals preference. A couple important things about Nikon is: 1) they are not the market leader in the camera industry for nothing 2) labor expenses in Japan are quite a bit lower than in Europe.

here's your sign you mean you didn't put in for that 24south dec hunt with 150 available tags?

I do not know - you will have to call them. in april they were already sold out for the 2nd 2009 hunt (april) and we ended up getting tags for the 1st hunt (march).

Nikon BDC for me - 2.5 inch group at 300 yards with my new 300 WSM.

it does not appear they take service to seriously - I had to fax my turkey app twice. a friend of mine was going through globe and he stopped by to buy his turkey tag in person, they had the office closed in the middle of the day for a birthday party.

doubt there will be any from 27, 29, 31, 32, 33, 34A. probably will be some from 30A, 30B, 34B, 36A, 36B. don't know about the 35s, 22, 23, 24s

thats a nice, big wreath you got there.

nothing for Scout'm and I. kind of surprised that we did not get deer tags. we had drawn deer tags 3 years in a row. glad to see some fellow CWs drew some quality hunts. it looks like they only sent emails to the successful applicants. after getting zipped in AZ for elk and antelope, zipped in UT and zipped in NM - maybe an AZ Dec tag (sheep or deer) is in my future. now the waiting game for AZ begins.

sling shot

Congrats to Stanford - locked up 1st place for the 14th year in a row. These are not year end standings but as of their "Spring #2 Release" (June 11) the other PAC10 schools are as follows: 1 = Stanford 3 = UCLA 4 = Cal 9 = ASU 11 = USC 21 = Wash 31 = Oregon 38 = AZ Sorry OSU and WSU fans (no top 50 for you) http://nacda.cstv.com/

that first pic is a good one - you should zoom in and show just a neck/head/rack shot and post it.

kind of sad to see this but it is good to see he got caught and punished. http://www.azgfd.gov/pdfs/inside_azgfd/min...Civ%20Asses.pdf

what - you couldn't get any closer?

but he is just contributing to everyone's ongoing education.

HERE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE FOR YA http://forums.coueswhitetail.com/forums/in...?showtopic=8687

Just consider it a free contribution to your ongoing education. -TONY Talk about the pot calling the kettle black Which he needs all the help he can get coming from ASU. get a degree, then come talk to me. everyone on this site knows who the person is that thinks they 1) own and shoot the best and most accurate guns, 2) owns and drives the best truck, 3) owns and uses the best optics, etc, etc, etc. additionally, it is obvious this person is not shy about telling people that their things are inferior to his and hijacking their threads for his own selfish, egotistical purposes.

it must be nice to know everything about everything and then not be shy about letting everyone know about it. but hey, I'm "not pointing a finger at anyone in particular".

we are going to just have to agree to disagree on this one tony because it is apparent you will defend the G&F to the death. despite what you may think, I most certainly do not think the "sky is falling". nor do I think mandatory reporting vs voluntary survey's to be a major concern. what bothers me is in general how big the government has become and how, in general, they operate. in regards to the G&F specifically, it does not appear that they truely listen to their customer - the public. additionally, like all gov, they are slow, slow, slow to change, even for the sake of improvement. finally, it is fairly apparent that the dept has agendas that are not publicized. if you go back to "the opportunity survey", I remember when I took the survey that it was apparent the questions were worded in certain ways to promote desired responses. guess what the outcome was - what they wanted it to be (which was based on how they wrote the questions). then, in order to execute "more opportunity", at least for WT deer, they knew they had to reduce the % of total tags available for dec hunts. so what did they do, several year ago they changed the management guidelines from 10% of total dec tags down to 5% to start in 2008. by the time they came out with the 2008 hunt guidelines there was no turning back, the pieces had already been put in place and the "public meetings" that are held for john doe to lobby his opinion were really just dog and pony shows as no changes were ever going to be made. regarding the two items mostly discussed in this thread: first - the day after they had their fiasco several years ago with their online vendor's bond problem, they should have immediately taken actions to ensure the online application process would be back up in place for the next application period. guess what - didn't happen and still has not happened. second - I would much rather say "I am 99% confident that the hunter success for the unit 32, October WT hunt was 31%, +/- 1% (30% - 32%)" than "I am 90% confident that the hunter success rate for the unit 32, October WT hunt was 31%, +/- 4% (27% - 35%). IMO - online applications are far superior to paper apps. to me, and based on the technology that is currently available, it is inexcusable that we have to complete paper applications. why are we still doing paper apps? why? I would like to know. IMO - mandatory reporting is not that big of a deal. I have been doing it for years in other states. it only takes a couple of minutes. plain and simple, the numbers that are compiled from mandatory reports are superior to voluntary surveys. why are we still doing voluntary surveys? why? I would like to know. if the AZ G&F Dept was operating in the private sector they would have been out of business years and years ago.

The only thing it might do is soothe the minority of bruised selfish egos out there. FYI - I have nothing at stake in this, and as such, my unselfish ego has not been bruised. I would just like to see some of the things the dept does move out of the 70's and into this century.

well Doug we will see if I draw a Dec tag or not. if I don't it will probably be due to not having enough bogus points and there being to much other opportunity. on another note, if EVERYONE stopped buying gas than as a result of demand going away the price would come down. same situation here. if EVERYONE tore up their survey cards then the G&F would be forced to implement mandatory reporting. I think almost everyone on this site would agree that lobbying the G&F is a futile effort. history has repeatedly shown that they do what they want regardless of public input. Tony, since you are in the know with the G&F, can you provide some input on what kind of lame excuses they are using for 1) not having applications online and 2) not having mandatory reporting? if you do not know, would you be willing to find out for us? IMO - these are two things that can be done and would be improvements over how they are currently being done. their refusal to listen to their customers, change and make improvements where possible is ridiculous. like I said before, if this organization was operating in the private sector, they would have been out of business years ago.