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CWT.com we have Arizona covered-nothing happens without one of our on-the-scene reporters filing the story! lee

bsa troop logo?, also possibly a fire crew referencing the Mann Gulch fatalities(every crew has someone reading or has read the book). there is a short rock wall built for about a mile on the north canyon rim of show low creek above fool hollow lake. starts just west of the siphon and runs west almost to the dam. park staff have never heard of it, locals can't remember any large groups of scouts or other kids camping up there. a mystery. a solved mystery were the thousands of yards of 40lb test monofilament line running through the treetops around heber/overgaard in the late 1960's. deputy's said it was drug drops-drop plane would tie a thousand yard spool of line to a duffle and push it out the airplane letting the spool unroll at 150mph. no gps and hard to see planes in the dark so the ground people would find the line quick and hot-foot it to both ends for the goodies. a great book is "Faded Contrails"-an avid hiker chases down a good number of the military air crashes in Arizona since WWII. lots of hardparts still out there, lots of great stories in the book. lee

Timeline: The Robert Fisher case The Republic | azcentral.comPublished 8:31 a.m. MT Nov. 26, 2014 (Photo: The Republic) STORY HIGHLIGHTS CONNECTTWEETLINKEDINCOMMENTEMAILMORE It was April 10, 2001, when a house in Scottsdale exploded, covering up a grisly scene inside. After the fire was put out, authorities found the bodies of Mary Fisher and her two children. Authorities believe Mary's husband, Robert, slit the throats of his children and shot his wife in the head earlier in the morning, shortly before setting their Scottsdale home ablaze. Robert Fisher was missing.There have been numerous tips about possible Fisher sightings called into the FBI over the years, but he has never been found. Here is a timeline of the case: 10 p.m. April 9, 2001 Robert Fisher and his wife, Mary, are said to have had a loud argument about 10 p.m. in their Scottsdale house. 10:45 p.m. April 9, 2001 Robert Fisher withdraws $280 - the maximum amount allowable - from an ATM at 10:45 p.m. at 74th Street and McDowell Road in Scottsdale. The surveillance camera shows that Fisher was alone in his wife's Toyota 4Runner. April 10, 2001 At 8:42 a.m., a blast rings through a Scottsdale neighborhood, and flames engulfing the residence at 2223 N. 74th Place. The charred remains of Mary Fisher, Brittney Fisher and Robert Fisher Jr. are discovered inside. Their throats were slit and their bodies doused with an accelerant. Notably missing is Robert Fisher Sr., who is quickly labeled a person of interest. April 17, 2001 Nearly 1,300 people attend a memorial service at Scottsdale Baptist Church.The bell choir started the service, walking down the aisle in red shirts and black gloves and hitting gentle high notes that lingered in the air, just like the unanswered questions. There were no copious tears, and there were precious few laughs at the memorial service for Mary Fisher, 38, and her children, Brittney, 12, and Bobby, 10. Plainsclothes police officers also attend, looking for Robert Fisher. April 20, 2001 A camper spots Fisher, his dog and SUV near the wilderness outside of Young, Ariz. Officials speculate whether Fisher may have killed himself. A trained "cadaver dog" on loan from the Arizona Department of Corrections failed to pick up any trace of a corpse in the honeycomb of caves underneath the Naeglin Rim region of the Tonto National Forest where the manhunt was centered. Exhaustive searches in caves come up empty. Asked at the time to evaluate the odds of Fisher being either alive or dead, Gila County Deputy R.H. Wade pantomimed tossing a coin and slapping it onto his wrist. "We just don't know what else to do," he said. June 2002 A computer-altered image of Robert Fisher. (Photo: FBI) Fisher is placed on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list. He remains there today. The FBI is offering a reward of $100,000 for information that leads to his arrest. "There's nothing to indicate he's taken his life," said Sgt. Douglas Bartosh of Scottsdale police at the time. "In fact, we don't want people to write him off and begin to think that's a possibility. Obviously, if people begin to believe that, then they're going to stop looking for him." 2004 A man with striking similarities to Fisher is taken into custody in suburban Vancouver, British Columbia. The similarities were tantalizing. Same facial structure. Same short haircut. A surgical scar on the back. Even a missing tooth where fugitive Robert Fisher's gold bicuspid had been. Const. Tim Shields told reporters in Canada that "in this case it's just not as clear cut as it normally could be. Things have become somewhat more complicated, and we're going to have to look at other means, even including dental records, to try and identify this man and determine if he is the man who we think he may be." But the fingerprints don't match. 2006 A hunter discovers an illegally owned makeshift cabin in Arizona national forest lands. Authorities are able to locate a vehicle related to the cabin and rule out speculation that Fisher was the owner. 2011 FBI and Scottsdale police enlist the help of local caving and spelunking communities to see if they have found any traces of Fisher. 2013 Scottsdale police ask Arizona Game and Fish employees and associates to keep a lookout for people who may have come across Fisher. October 2014 Law enforcement officials in Colorado arrest two people after acting on a tip that the notorious Arizona fugitive Fisher was at a Commerce City, Colo., home. John Jacoby, 44, and Andrew Hurtando, 39, are held for investigation of possession of a schedule two substance with the intent to distribute, obstruction, and possession of an illegal weapon, according to Colorado police. There appears to be no indication that these men are connected to Fisher, police say.

Ira Hayes? only a guess-i see at least some native here, not trying to be offensive. lee

sometimes wicked fun- in 1975 bob kyhn and i were archery hunting up around control road and sleeping in a pontiac ventura hatchback. one night the white stuff got heavy and in the early am the hatch came crashing down on our heads. when we got up in the morning it was like hunting on one of the moons of Saturn-no obvious sun to be seen, 3ft of snow and only a vague idea of where in heck we and the roads were. and then these big muley bucks started moving through-they were doing some migration right through our vastly reduced hunt area. we hunted hard for 2 days with those unsighted recurves and missed many nice bucks. back in those days many of my mentors were older vets and laughed at being snowed in during an elk or deer hunt. snowed in only meant a very good reason not to go home, nobody bothering around camp and the hunting was always good. by far the most important tool they had was an axe and the snow kept the game fresh and the beer cold. does anybody remember that bunch that would hang around Pertersens in downtown mesa back then? Coach Petersens' dad and his buddies? that three horned mule deer buck? sorry but i had fun just typing that. dang white shoot-i've seen enough of it, lee

being so close to town it sounds like some kind of a psuedo-sweat lodge circle-but HUGE! lee

yea sir those 22 and 23 bulls always seem to have a vertical orientation!!! lee

kool find. back in the 1990's blackhawks and warthogs played all day and all night in the skys over the altar valley and surrounding ranges. my favorite finds there were a couple black 300 H & H magnum cases on the Palo Alto ranch. lee

nice. wide. buck. yea. Good Lord forbid-i may have to put in for coues deer again. came close to taking a 3B coues but it is just not going to happen. tippin' my hat to another old killer! lee i know its not but...anyone seen GRONG around?

my first two w a .357 were with black talon 158gr-1 at 5 ft the other at about 30yds. they both lived longer than the next half-dozen shot w copper swc 158gr. no big deal just hit your target dirty harry. always wanted to kill a boar w my 3" .44 Special but quit hunting them when i moved up on the mountain. lee

I give up! i was looking at a 24" flattop in .300b/o! lee

a good friend of mine-Brian Brooks of joseph city might be a little 'north' lol but you could not have a better anyone to talk dog rifle with. not hard to find and worth a ringtone or a click or 2 and he has a rifle shop. well-maybe more of a 'dog shop'. lee

NOT MY VIDEO everything about this is nice-i will bet some here have been in those hot springs!

i think i have read that up until pearl harbor the savage m99 in various calibers was the choice 'for little arizona fantails' lee

Alan Ellsworth used to tell me about his fathers' Coues hunts on the san carlos with $10 otc tags and a m94 30/30. the first deer i helped gut was a fellow from tucson with a marlin lever in .22/250 in 1973 or '74. lee

looking for a combo .22/.22WMR(mag) single action revolver. less than 6" bbl. a few items for trade but i have cash. lee 928-537-0599

cal ranch also-thanks. lee

my mentor in pursuit of adventure for this young arizona boy-only my parents stood taller. Mike and I would chase the hounds on a lion afoot, sleep on the rocky shores of San Carlos and Roosy and Apach. learned from Mike how to set a trap and ride a horse and play a ringer on softball diamonds all 'round Arizona and getting ranchers to talk 'burro' or lion with a coke and a bag of peanuts. And the best man at my wedding so long ago. he's prob camped somwhere up above Mcguireville-i'll just follow the smell of coffee into camp. soon. Thank you Michael Pock.

end of November always a tough time.

i will not live to be a hundred or even close but the toll taken by tonto creek and young road is so awful even the saguaros' cry. so very sad. lee

what would Joe Pickett do? looks like one of his stucks................. lee

the only time i had to get jerked out was sumptin. the hero has been reported as a lurker here on CWT-thank you again Sir. got my '73 green Waggoneer frame stuck below high water mark on the south side of San Carlos circa 1996. sumthin you may never see in a lifetime-four times-four as in 4-the fellow from safford hit the end of the chain and went airborne-a dodge diesel cummins 4x4 trying to fly! methinks he was having some fun but out on 4th takeoff attempt. just a little something to remember life by, wouldn't take money-thanks again! Good Luck! lee

Favorite Miles Traveled 'going fishing-git yer gear kid' excitement and butterflies and all wound up climbing in the truckbed ready for the chilly trip daydreams of lunkers, the best worms ever or a new honey hole getting rigged up by flashlight in the dark, rough ride down the canyon wide awake, ready for adventure, can't wait to see the dawn mist on the water repacking knapsack many times-hooks and viennas', sodas and a poncho nothing more exciting at 10 years old than first light on a trout lake "don't go in the water", "don't talk to hippies", "come back for lunch" forever remembered in the dawn. off at a trot-where are the big ones today? Look-a rise! a big one! being "mature"-casting a colorful trout lure for a fruitless hour but i know how success will come-the liveliest grasshopper or the biggest worm in the coffee can all too soon back with my full stringer-cold fried chicken and sweet iced tea waiting on the tailgate squatting in the mud cleaning everyones fish-telling others to get up early if they want to get limits why do people want to take pictures of someone elses trout?-the lake is full of them! riding home in the back, smelling of fish, finishing off the last fried chicken wing, smile so wide... how big was the one that got away? le2018

black canyon lake to guadalupe island. too bad we can't pass down luck like that. lee

i saw a few from long past generations while building Gold Canyon GC. and as you whizz by Kings Ranch Rd eastbound on 60 take notice of that little 15-20ft high mound in the median. great place to glass bucks during january archery during the early '70s.