I agree with most of the people the minox are a really great buy, but i have heard alot of good things about the pentax! one thing i would really say is a must is a good tripod it makes all the difference in the world when u start talking about the big dogs! I will say this though, a pair of binoculars are an investment that you should take very serious! In my opinion I would save up and buy the best! Yours eyes will thank you for it and you will have alot more fun hunting when u are seeing animials. I bought the 15x56 swaros by saving alittle at a time and although it took a while i have to say thank god i didnt do it backwards and buy another pair before.....