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Everyone here is dead on!!! I just don't think that people realize what is going on with the hiring of illegal workers. Right now it only costs Illegal Pedro $100 to get his FAKE paper work. Once Pedro has these documents he can get a job anywhere and APPEAR to the employer as a LEGAL worker. The employer hires Pedro thinking he's perfectly legit even though he's illegal. Are you with me so far??? So for the employer has not broken any laws. The problem is that when you put together this new database the employeer must call to check on Pedro. The employer performs the check as required by law and discovers that Pedro is not on the list and the employer can't hire him. Pretty cut and dry. The problem now is that over night in Arizona we've just illiminated hundreds of thousands of labor related jobs. Business owners will have to make a decision. Hire someone that is not on the list and run the risk of penalties or not have enough workers to do the job which will ultimatly lead to going out of business. There are simply not enough legal workers to keep Arizona's economy afloat. The only solution to this part of the problem is some sort of guest worker program.

Tony, I'm well aware that the bill came from the conservitives. They're not perfect either. I personally think they played it right into her hands. Pretty much everyone agrees that something has to be done. I don't believe that going after the employers is the solution. Most of the employers are not "knowingly" hiring illegals anyway. The illegals have found ways to get fake documents and social security numbers to look legit. Fake documents only cost an illegal $100 bucks! You can't force the employers to police this issue, that's the governments job. This bill will undoubtedly put legitimate companies out of business and Arizona's economy will face severe inflation as a result. This is just bad legislation that pulls the strings of our over emotional public. I still maintain that for this piece of legislation and all others like it that the first step is to enforce the laws that are already on the books! If those fail to solve the problem then we can create new laws. Arizona has not even made a small effort to enforce the current laws! Ok, perhaps Sherriff Joe has, but that's about it. Simple solutions are almost always better than complex ones.

While Gov. Napalatano's intentions were good, this is not a good piece of legistaltion! It's conquences to Arizona and it's economy could be extremely negative. Even Napalatano pointed out many of is weaknesses and said she signed it to get attention from Washington. All she did was trade one set of problems for another, and in this case that could really hurt our struggling economy. Why do we need more laws??? Why can't we just enforce the laws that we already have on the books??? If you take away the illegals in the Arizona work force today there won't be enough qualified and/or willing workers to get the job done. This will drive up the labor, trucking, farming, produce costs and drasticly inflate the prices for anything related to these industries. Not to mention put a lot of legitimate businesses out of business! This could really hurt Arizona's economy. Sometimes the simple solution is the best one.............. Enforce the laws that are already on the books, but on the other hand I've never known a liberal to turn down an opportunity to make new laws!!!! I agree that something has to be done, but this is not the solution!

My wife used to tell me I watched to many hunting shows. Now I watch the UFC and all the MMA fight shows. She's not happy with that either.

Unfortunatly the days of setting trailcameras out on water are long gone. Not only are hunters going out to check water holes for tracks, but I believe they are also checking them out for cameras. DO NOT leave your cameras on water or they will get stolen. Sorry but that's just the way it is. If they can't steal it they will bust it up.

I don't see 90 inches? I'll say 86 or 87 inch range.

I've got a couple of home brew cameras and both of them let me see the pictures right in the field. In fact I can even zoom into the deer's head to see a closer view of its antlers. I just checked one of my cameras yesterday. It was in a new area that I've never scouted before. I had it set over a game trail and didn't really know what to expect. When I got there I was a little disapointed to see there were only 9 pictures and I figured that I would probably take it back with me. After looking at the pictures in the field I changed my mind and left the camera there. There weren't any pic's of monsters, but there was enough that I'd like to give it another round. To me being able to see the pictures in the field is a huge benefit!

I agree on the elk pic's being aggrivating at times. Now if a guy could get a bull tag every year I'd probably feel differently.

Actually the fight between Grey Maynard and Rob Emerson was called a no contest because neither fighter was able to continue. Grey was going to win that fight had he not knocked himself out!!! The Manny and Nate fight was another crazy conclusion. Manny pretty much handled Nate for the entire fight before he hurt his shoulder shooting in for a take down on Nate. I think Manny was on his way to winning the fight, too bad for him. BJ just worked over Jens. He is just techically a much better fighter. I was glad to see him win and that after the fight they could stop with all the trash talking hype!

Yep! I think it's gonna be a dandy tonight. I'm not a huge fan of Jens but I think he's got BJ's number and knows how to get inside his head. I think BJ's fighting like he has to win, and I think Jens is fighting like he's got nothing to loose. I'm calling it for Jens. Not a fan of Nate Diaz either and I've been pulling for Manny for the entire series. Nate is probably a more rounded fighter. He stand up is good and his ground game is even better but I don't like his attitude and I'm hoping Manny catches him. I kind of like cheering for the underdog.

Treestandman and I both drew rifle antelope tags. I just hope we get assigned to a good ranch.

Can anyone tell me the dates for ANT-1-106 please? I can't get onto the website to see for myself. Tim

I just checked my card and nothing. BUT............ I'm on the same application as Treestandman, so if he got hit it then it looks like we got drawn for antelope.

Nice deer! I think a lot of the differences have to do with the time of year when the deer were harvested. Late season deer will have thicker necks, faces, and bodies than early season deer. Also the coloration will be different at different times of the year.

Here's a copy of the letter I got 6/11. Good luck everyone! The New Mexico Department of Game and Fish is preparing to conduct special hunt drawings for Big Game hunting opportunities. The Department reminds all online applicants that funds must be available through the credit card account on the application. You may also want to notify your credit card issuer that they should not decline transactions related to your hunt application. If you have moved, changed your credit card billing address, cancelled your card account or otherwise changed your status, please access your account at the Department website ( www.wildlife.state.nm.us <http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/> ) and update your information. Draw results will be available June 20, 2007 via the website ( www.wildlife.state.nm.us <http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/> ). Sincerely, New Mexico Department of Game and Fish

I know you weren't asking about the Ziess Conquest scopes but I'd give them the nod over the Leupoulds, and there pricing is similar. If you just want to compare the Leupould and the Burris, then Leupould will win that race all day long.

What's it taste like? Yote tastes more like rodents and rabit, while lion tastes more like deer and elk. In a month or two the yotes will start eating the fawns and calves and will be much more difficult to distinguish.

Go with a home brew! Treestandman and myself have used about every make and model you can think of and none of them work as well as the home brew kind. Most of the store bought ones are battery hogs, or don't have much in the way of security. I've built a couple for around $200 - $225 that I'm real happy with. I agree with the comments above about not putting it on a water hole or another area where it will be found. People, especially other hunters will steal them!!! The only thing the locks do is keep honest people honest, if a crook wants it, he'll get it. Good luck, cause you'll be hooked in no time!

I'm not trying to start an arguement or say that McCain is the way to go, but who do you McCain haters vote for when he's up against Hillary or Obama? Do you waste your vote by not voting? Do you waste your vote with a write in name? Or do you just vote for the lesser of two evils? Just curious because that's probably what it will come to.

Seems to me that perhaps if Virgina Tech students were allowed to have guns on campus that someone may have been able to shoot the sorry bastard before he killed so many people. That's why the second ammendmend exists...... so we can arm ourselves and protect ourselves when the police can't help us.

It looks like the G&F would rather manage the herds using hearsay than sientific facts. Where is there proof that way too many coues deer are being killed over salt??? I'd bet money that the number of deer being shot each year over salt doesn't account for 1% of the total archery deer harvested. I've had trail cameras hung over salt for several years now and while it does help bring in deer, it's still not easy! I have yet to shoot a buck over salt. Even on the Kiabab the archery deer success is only like 7%. I'll bet for coues deer it's even lower. If a few more bucks are being killed each year because of salt is this really enough to be concerned? I doubt it! The other problem I see is that salt can and will last for years once leached into the soil. A 50 pound bag of rock salt left out in the summer during the monsoon's will melt into the soil in the matter of a couple good storms. There will be enough salt left in the soil to remain effective for the remainder of the hunting season. How will G&F determine if it's a man made salt hole or a natural salt hole if there is no salt pellets as evidence? How will G&F know if it's not the reminants of a salt block that a rancher left out years ago? What will stop hunters from putting out salt in July that melts away by archery deer season? Way to many variables on this one. Making new laws that you can't enforce is a JOKE!!! The only thing worse than that is making new laws that never had good reason to be made in the first place!

Bowtech probably has a better name and recognition. But with that said shoot them both and decide which one feels the best for you.

Thanks for the pic's and story, sounds like a real adventure! I've said it before and I'll say it again... Hap is a STUD!!!

Wow, I'm even better looking than I thought I was!

Sorry Auntie J but they're refering to the unit 23 hunt. I've hunted there several times and some places can be crazy. Get away from the roads if you want some peace and quiet. I've never hunted the Burro's so I can't speak for those hunts, but there are a lot fewer tags in there so I'd imagine it's not quite as bad.