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Jack, did you just recently take a picture of the Antelope buck on your Avatar? I've been watching one just like it.

Closing the roads is one step closer to closing the forests all together. There are a buncha tree hugger type groups that want the forests closed and they will use all the bogus science they can come up with to get there way.

What do I win for gettin it right?

This has OIL written all over it. In a perfect world I think things of this nature should be monitored by good scientific facts. The problem I see right now is that those that are in charge of the science part aren't doing a very good job! A perfect example is the wolf situation going on in Wyoming. Another good example of the scientists dropping the ball is the wolf/dog hybrid habitat expansion discssions going on right now in Arizona. It seems to me that often times the so called scientists have a hidden agenda they're trying to accomplish in the name of science. Like introduce more wolves/dogs over a larger area so we can force the forest service to close down more roads so the poor wolf/dogs can be left alone. I think the scientists and politations have intermingled into one big ball of red tape!

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Thanks Gino, I've got a camera hanging in 19A right now. That little tid bit will sure help me sleep better.........NOT! Cool Pic's!

That's pretty much what I did with Josh (Aka: Grong) and his dad Randy Epperson. I told them I wanted to go and Josh called me when they had a couple of lions that were hitting the same scratches/areas on a somewhat regular basis. As luck turned out they ended up getting a call from another houndsman that had been told about a fresh kill that we could go hunt. We chased this lion on dry ground for two days off the kill and finally on the second day, Hap, Rusty, Mike and Roxy put him in a tree! The hunt was really planed at the last minute and not months in advance for a certain date.

Notice what time that bear came in on a couple of those pic's? When it comes to water, they're not always as nocturnal as people think. That last buck is a stud. You need to kill him!

Well lets see some of them pictures then!!! Do you think he kept the pic of the 440 inch non-typical bull and deleted it off the card before he gave it back?

If it aint yours, then don't mess with it!!!!! It's really that simple. I'm a contractor and I can't tell you how many thousands of dollars worth of tools I've seen left at job sites (abandoned?) after the work crews have packed up and left for the day. I could have a garage full of cool stuff from nail guns to generators by now. The simple fact is that I don't want someone else's stuff if I haven't paid for it myself. Why do people have a problem living by such a simple code of honor? To say a camera was abandoned/litter in the forest is nothing more than a cheap rationalization for a scum bag to make him self feel good about stealing it.

Nice lopes, but if you're looking for better than 84, keep on lookin.

That's a cool find! I'd love to know the rest of the story behind it.

It's not just the Hispanics that politicians are trying not to piss off. There are numerous groups of voters that politations are trying to please. Senior citizens, gun owners, union workers, teachers, blue collar, white collar, women, young voters, just to name a few. The people in charge of the campaings look at every "group" of people possible and then come up with ways to look good and earn there votes. I guess that's why it's called campaining.

Laeve a box or two of Krispy Kreames out and I'll bet that yellow one will be back for sure!

Here are a few pic's I took tonight of a decent antelope buck. He was close enough I could have shot him with my bow.

Hunt4horns, Over the last decade or so the Hispanic vote has become a key ingredient to winning a national political campaign. Right now the majority of the Hispanic voters are more liberal and the Democrats don't want to do anything to loose that trust and confidence. The Republican party has had a difficult time over the years gaining the trust of the Hispanics and other minority groups. The fact is that more Hispanics will vote Democrat than Republican. If either party were to do something catastrophic to stir the pot of the Hispanic voters that party could loose the election. Both partys are walking on egg shells right now when it comes to issues related to Mexico, closing the border, loosing jobs to Mexico, deporting illegal immigrants, and so on. Both sides, especially the Republicans who don't do well with the Hispanic voters are choosing there words very carefully and being very selective on how they discuss these issues. I'm sure there are others like you that see these invasions as a threat that needs to be stopped, but I believe that for every one person like yourself, there are a dozen more that would see it as an attack on Mexico.

Here's a crappy pic of one I found just a couple days ago. I've found a few over the years but never anything very big. I think once they fall off they shrink up like a rasin. Often times in about November the antelope will group up in big herds and spend days in the same field or pasture. If you look in those areas you'll have better luck finding them.

Wow a grammar lesson from Lark??? Or is it grammer? I say we get Nappy out and vote Lark in!!! I can see the signs all over the state with "Lark for Gov" in big letters and the slogan underneath will read "Don't drink the Kool-aid".

LOL! It wouldn't be politicaly correct to protect our borders. Besides which political party is willing to give up the hispanic vote by pissing them all off?

Although this may sound cool, it's actually bad press for the NRA! The public already has the perception that gun owners and the NRA are too extreme and political bullies. This will not help there reputation.

Mike, I'm not waiting till next year to kill me a good goat. I've got a NM rifle tag in a real good spot north of Carrizozo and I'm planning on getting my 80 incher next month. Although, my Arizona lope is just going to have to grow another year. RR, I've seen plenty of bucks starting to round up the does and rubbing there horns, but the two bucks I posted the pic's of did not have any does with them. The first buck has a group of 15 or so that he keeps within 1/4 to 1/2 mile from, and the second buck didn't have a doe in sight and was hanging out in the hills and PJ's on the fringe of they're range. Sundevil, you could be very right! I was thinking they might be the same because there prongs are shaped the same, there hooks are long and don't really hook, they both have similar spreads, and they live in the exact same spot. But you never really know. For what it's worth that last buck is a bigger buck than the first. I think the first buck kinda fools you because the pic's are so close to him which makes him look bigger. The last buck has better mass, better prongs and his hooks really curl in adding to his length.

Here's a better buck that I chased around for about an hour this afternoon. Sorry they're not as clear as the others but I didn't have my tripod and the buck was about 150-200 yards away. These pictures really don't show him as well as I would have liked. His hooks really curl in a lot and have polished tips and his prongs are really good as well. This buck was a definate shooter to me.

Thanks for pointing that out Mike! 13 bonus points and world class antelope 10 minutes from the house and I can't even draw a stinkin tag. The truth is I would have passed this guy up. There are some huge bucks in this area. Here are a couple pic's of what I believe is the same buck last year.

Yes placement matters. If they get direct sunlight they can have false triggers. In more open country I try to place them facing north. In areas with thicker vegetation or more mountains or ridges to block the sun just use your best judgement. The sun will reflect off blades of grass and water. Good luck!

If I remember correctly Steven Ward shot his 110 inch archery buck around a herd of cows. I think the cows actually pushed the buck out of thick cover and made it possible for him to get his shot. My opinion is that deer will hang around even with cows in the area. Sometimes they may change there patterns to work around the cattle, but they're still there. I know up on the Kaibab this past fall I watched a mule deer doe and a cow water together at the same time at the same water trough. Just my .02