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There are a thousand different "what if" senarios that could be discussed all day, but the point is that by taking the class you will be a much more educated and responsible gun owner.

Ernesto, that's exactly how I felt before the class. You are 100% responsible for your bullet once you pull the trigger. A 9mm bullet will penetrate 6 sheets of 1/2 inch dry wall. It is your responsibility to make sure your bullet doesn't shoot through a wall and kill your sleeping child, or your neighbor, or a jogger, or a kid at the park. I learned that there is a LOT more that goes into responsible gun ownership then I ever knew before.

One thing I learned the hard way is that the combination dials take much longer to open and are more difficult to see the numbers in the dark. If you plan on keeping any of your home defense guns in your safe then forget the combo dials and go with an electronic style keypad. You can program those combos to what ever you want and they are much easier and quicker to get into in the event you need some fire power! Check on ebay. Believe it or not there are some good deals there even after paying for shipping.

Wow! Talk about some circumference measurements. Congrats.

I'm sure that all you gun owners will sleep much better tonight knowing that you can "take him at his word". I'm also pretty certain that BO's interpertation of "common-sense" will not be quite the same as mine. Those two words are where he is pulling the wool over Americas eyes. I'm quite sure his version of "common-sense" is a far cry from my version. Obama: Don't stock up on guns December 8, 2008 BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Political Reporter As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month. "I believe in common-sense gun safety laws, and I believe in the second amendment," Obama said at a news conference. "Lawful gun owners have nothing to fear. I said that throughout the campaign. I haven't indicated anything different during the transition. I think people can take me at my word." But National Rifle Association spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said it's not Obama's words — but his legislative track record — that has gun-buyers flocking to the stores. "Prior to his campaign for president, his record as a state legislator and as a U.S. Senator shows he voted for the most stringent forms of gun control, the most Draconian legislation, gun bans, ammunition bans and even an increase in federal excise taxes up to 500 percent for every gun and firearm sold," Arulanandam said. Obama answered "yes" in 1996 to a questionnaire from an Illinois group on whether he supported a handgun ban. But he later said a staffer filled out that answer and he did not support a ban. Nationally, background checks for gun purchases jumped nearly 49 percent during the week Obama was elected, compared with the same time period last year, according to the FBI's National Instant Background Check System. Anecdotally, gun dealers around the country have reported spikes in sales. The Illinois State Rifle Association Reports gun sales for November were 38 percent higher than last year. "We don't dispute [the gun sales hike] because the numbers from the federal system certainly confirm that there is increased activity out there. We just think it's a bit stupid," said Peter Hamm, spokesman for the Brady Campaign against Gun Violence. "Anyone who thinks they need to rush out and buy a firearm clearly has not been paying attention to how quickly we make progress on this issue. We don't think these are first-time buyers. We think they are people who already have more than enough guns at their homes to protect themselves and are buying more."

Sorry to hear about Mike Isin't he the one that got ahold of a lion once and killed it? That makes two of the four that treed my cat gone now. How long do lion hounds usually live anyway?

Congrats on a great buck!!!

Yep, he did the same thing with my lion. He was up in the tree just as far as he could climb. Thanks for sharing and bringing back some good memories!

I'm expecting nothing less than a typical Booner from Tommy and a double dropper from Jason! Don't let me down guys

Good deal!

I think Hap and Rusty were the first to tree my lion followed by Mike and Roxy. If I'm not mistaken Ruby was a young dog back then and stayed in the dog box that day. Rusty has since passed on and is chasing lions in doggie heaven. Randy sure has a great pack of dogs!!!

Congratulations on a nice cat!!! Randy is a lion hunting machine. got any pic's of the dogs? Hap, Mike, Roxy, were any of them in on the chase?

I think the point here is that the RNC is under a lot of scrutiny right now from a lot of angles. Supporting anything like this that could even possibly draw any negative attention to the party does nothing but continue to bring the party down. You can't be all things to all people, but doing things like this will loose voters before the issues are even up for debate. There is no question that the party needs new blood right now. They need to look at ALL demographic groups of people that voted the other way and try and figure out how to win there votes. One of the other groups they need to focus on is the under 30 voters. They are loosing ground fast with the younger generation and need to find ways to appeal to them as well. I don't believe they need to change there message, they just need to re-wrap the package.

Jason isn't it also possible that some of the HD hunts could change between S and HD from year to year? It's my understanding that a hunt gets the "HD" designation if the ratio of applicants to number of tags is high. If this is the case then you would think that some of the hunts that just barley made it as a HD hunt could change to an S hunt if the number of applicants drops. Perhaps this will be rare but I think it's possible for a unit to be HD one year and S the next? It all depends on how many people apply for it... right? I'm also curious about the Q coues one year vs Q mule deer the next?

Great job and even better buck!

That's the problem! His actions have already spoken loud and clear. All of them anti gun. Although his experience is limited he's not a complete rookie. He's been around long enough to have supported several anti gun and anti ammuntiion laws.

You say the rifle performed well over the summer, but not now. Could it be from the temperature variations? I know during the hotter months you could have higher pressures than in the cooler months, which could effect the bullets POI. It's never a good idea to sight your rifle in during the heat of the summer and expect it to shoot the same during the cold fall or winther months. My only other guess would be that with factory ammo sometimes one box will perform better than another. One more reason to load your own ammo! Good luck

Congratulations Josh, looks like you guys had a fantastic hunt. Thanks for reminding all of us about what hunting really should be about. I've been to Mexico twice now and will be going back again in a few weeks. I've yet to take a big buck down there, but the country, people, and overall experience keep drawing me back. One of my favorite parts about going to hunt in Mexico is actually coming back! For those of you that have never gone before it is some what of a gut wrenching experience stopping at numerous military check points and letting the Mexican Police and Military officials check your rifles and ammo. In some cases they count every bullet you brought just to make sure it matches up with your paper work. We've never had any troubles but the potential is there and none the less it's still intimidating! It's always a great moment after being gone for a week when you can see the big American Flag flying at the US Port of Entry and you cross back on to American soil. It really makes you appreciate how good we've got it here.

So Casey if we all start ignoring you does that mean you'll go away?

Let 'em have it Tommy!

Sounds like NM G&F is using one of the AZ G&F smoke and mirrors tricks. Like you said "appease the masses" and throw logic to the curb. I've got a couple areas to check out in the next few months that may have some potential for your quest for a velvet buck. I'll be sure and keep you posted.

LOL Tommy!

I got a picture mail from GRONG!

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Here is an email I got from Walt at Berger regarding load data for the Berger 190's and 210's Good luck! Hi Tim, Load data was generated using Quick Load a 26 inch barrel a COAL (cartridge over all length) of 3.600 inches and your COAL and velocity could be a little different. AS WITH ALL RELOADING APPROACH THE MAXIMUM LOADS WITH CAUTION AS ALL RIFLES AND RELOADING TECHNIQUES WILL BE DIFFERENT. If YOU CHANGE ANY OF YOUR COMPONENTS; THIS INCLUDES DIFFERENT POWDER LOT NUMBERS; YOU MUST REFIGURE YOUR LOADS BY STARTING WITH THE MINIMUM LOAD. If we can be of any additional help feel free to contact us. Thanks for your interest and have a great day. Walt Berger Berger Bullets Technical Adviser 300 Rem Ultra Magnum Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio 190 Grain RETUMBO .88.5 2972 95.4 3185 101.2% 190 Grain RE-25 85.5 2976 91.9 3174 98.5% 190 Grain AA MAG PRO 86.5 2966 91.2 3128 91.8% 190 Grain NORMA MRP 2 84.5 2861 97.6 3103 97.7% 190 Grain Ramshot Magnum 89.0 2956 95.0 3166 94.6% 190 Grain VIHT N170 90.5 2887 97.7 3125 101.6% 190 Grain H1000 85.5 2861 93.0 3119 96.3% 190 Grain H870 95.5 2932 104.3 3247 106.6% 190 Grain RE-22 82.5 2973 88.6 3165 93.4% 190 Grain IMR 7828 SSC 82.5 2973 88.8 3189 88.8% 300 Rem Ultra Magnum Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio 210 Grain RETUMBO 85.5 2844 92.0 3035 99.2% 210 Grain RE-25 82.5 2843 88.6 3024 96.6% 210 Grain NORMA MRP 2 79.5 2676 88.2 2961 95.6% 210 Grain Ramshot Magnum 86.0 2835 90.8 2995 91.9% 210 Grain VIHT N170 87.5 2765 94.2 2984 101.6% 210 Grain H1000 85.3 2833 91.6 3038 96.5% 210 Grain H870 94.0 2880 100.6 3104 104.5% 210 Grain AA 8700 94.5 2650 105.0 3015 109.1% 210 Grain IMR 7828 SSC 80.5 2731 85.0 3022 89.7% 210 Grain RE-22 83.0 2982 87.0 3114 91.8% 210 Grain NORMA MRP 83.0 2976 86.8 3101 89.6%