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Seems like there are a lot of people being killed in auto accidents....... Lets ban cars! Perhaps we could lower the number of deaths from falls if we make some new laws on how many showers a person can take per week. Maybe regulate the type of surface that shower floors are made from. We could also mandate hand rails being installed in showers. We should demand that soap manufacturers develop new soap whith less slippery soap suds. I don't think we should be allowed to sing in the shower because it's to distracting. We could also mandate that people wear a saftey harness while in the shower. The logic behind this stuff is amazing. Are Americans really this stupid?

"Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border." This is a total crock of BS!!! So now my rights will be stripped because Mexico can't get there chit together? What The Fudge??? The drug cartels are crooks and they don't care what the US laws are! How will this stop them? I'll tell you what it will do.... It will strip the guns from the American law abiding citizens. Once again we are getting punished for other peoples wrong doings! And to use Mexico as the scape goat!?!? I guess I missed the part in the Constitution that says "these rights shall not be infringed unless Mexico says so". That is nothing more than a chicken crap cop out!!!!

Don't worry any reward money I see will go into throwing these guys a big party! Like I said in another post.... I think these guys forgot about the second "S". We can only hope that they don't forget the third one too.

I think someone forgot the second "S" after they shot them range rapists! All joking aside this is not good for hunters! This kind of stuff just gives the anti's more fuel for there fire!

All right you guys.............. Which one of you went and hammered 11 of them SOB's last week??? Come on now speak up??? 11 wild burros killed near Lake Pleasant The Associated Press Published: 02.24.2009 PHOENIX - Federal authorities are investigating the discovery of 11 wild burros found shot to death near Lake Pleasant northwest of Phoenix. Bureau of Land Management officials said the carcasses were found over the weekend by off-road vehicle riders. The federal agency said the incident occurred within the last week on public lands where the agency manages a wild burro herd of 280. A $5,000 reward is being offered, and anyone with information is asked to call 800-637-9152.

Congratulations! We named our three boys Kade Everett, Connor Allan, and Corbin Foster.

In Arizona it is against the law to shoot someone for breaking into my truck to steal a gun. No matter how big of a S**T Bag that person is. If you feel your life is in danger or you are likely to sustain grievious bodily harm, you CAN kill the SOB. BUT you will have to articulate that fact in your court case hearing. This boils back down to the old saying.."Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6".. Scottyboy, thats my point. If the SOB breaking into my truck is not putting my life in danger then I can't use deadly force. Now if my truck is "occupied" then the Castle Doctrine kicks in and could justify deadly force. Also the second he steals my gun from the truck and threatens me I am now justified to use deadly force. There are a lot of "what if" factors, but I think we're on the same page.

It sounds like this is a step in the right direction. I know the ADA has been struggling with the G&F for many years on how the Kaibab is being managed. Hopefully this will help get it back on track. Well this and perhaps some healthy rain and snow levels.

This idea is starting to build some national steam. It will be interesting to see if it comes to fruition and just how many concerned gun owners will stand behind it. It could be a very powerful way to communicate to Washington how strongly we feel about the second amendment. I for one hope that gun owners will support it. http://www.secondamendmentmarch.com/

Happy Birthday! Remember if you vote for Pedro your wildest dreams will come true!!!!

In Arizona it is against the law to shoot someone for breaking into my truck to steal a gun. No matter how big of a S**T Bag that person is.

These animals are not indigenous species of North America. They are raping our land or our natural resources and making it more difficult for the true indigenous species to thrive. I say the Gov't should let us kill them all and get rid of this expensive problem. But no we have a couple tree huggers that want the Government to spend millions so we can protect them and expand there territorys and create even more expensive problems to deal with.

Well after nearly a year of waiting I finally got her, and she's a shooter! 300 RUM built by Todd Betin out of Iowa. Stiller Predator action, ABS carbon wrapped Shilen 28 inch cut rifle barrel, Lone Wolf carbon Howler thumbhole stock, Timney 2.5 pound trigger, BDL style Wyatt box, Stiller pictinny rail, Burris extreme rings, titanium muzzle break w/ cap, black cera cote, Limbsaver pad, and topped off with a Huskemaw 5-20 scope. Should go right around 7 pounds scoped. I just shot her for the first time today and I couldn't be any happier with the results. my best group was 0.379 inches and I'm only getting started. With a little tweaking here and there I'm quite sure I'll get her down into the .2's. All of my rounds fired today were those JLK bullets. They're made the same way as Bergers with the same J4 jackets only they have higher BC's than the Bergers.

Thanks for the comments guys! RR, You're right there will be some trade off by going light. I've never been very recoil shy so I'm not that worried. When shooting with the break it's no big deal, more of a push than a punch. After I get some good loads dialed in I'll spend a little time shooting without the break. I shot a buddys rifle with a thumbhole for the first time many years ago and fell in love with the concept right away. It does have a little different feel as your engaging the trigger that takes some getting used to, but in the end it is a more comfortable shooting system in my opinion. CS, the gunsmith ordered all the components, so I really have no idea how long it took??? The total time from when I ordered the gun until it was delivered was probably 11 months. I wasn't in a big hurry so I didn't really care to much about time. I had heard the same thing about ABS before I ordered the gun, but more recently I've heard they are doing better. If you want a light weight rifle then carbon wrapped barrels make good sense! Gino I'll see if I can take some better pic's of the break and post them. My camera won't take good pictures up close like that so I may have to barrow my wifes camera.

CS, yep... good memory. ABS carbon wrap over a Shilen cut rifle barrel. 28 inch tube, Predator action, McMillan thumbhole stock, Limbsaver recoil pad, and I topped it off with a Huskemaw 5-20 scope. The test targets from the gunsmith all have cloverleaf groups. With regards to the original topic, my ears have seen to much abuse from shooting and loud concerts in my younger days. I'm pretty sure I have some permanant hearing damage from my past poor judgement. When I shoot at a range with a canopy and other shooters nearby I always double up on my ear protection. I have never owned a rifle with a break before and I hope I never make the mistake of shooting it without ear protection! I don't want my ears getting any worse than they already are.

I'll take a couple pic's and post 'em up tonight just for you RR. Probably put them in the rifle/reloading section.

Gino, the rifle those came off is my brand new custom 300 RUM. I just had it shipped to me a little over a week ago and I've not even been able to shoot it yet because of all the snow. With that said, from what I've been told the break will change the POI, but not the velocity, pressure, group size, or anything else. If that is true I will use the break at the range for load development and then switch to the cap for hunting. Of course I'll have to test everything out for myself, but that's all I know for now. Hopefully enough snow has melted that they will open the range today and I can finally shoot my new toy! I'll keep you posted.

Jade if you don't find what your looking for in Phoenix, send me a PM with exactly what you're lookin for and I'll take a look at a few of the local shops here in Prescott. Prices are going up, but I can still get most everything I need here in town.

What Goodoleboy said is right on. Have your gunsmith build an end cap. When you're shooting at the range you can use your muzzle break and hearing protection and when your hunting you can make that one shot kill with the regular end cap. Here's a pic of mine.

Hey Josh a big congrats to you guys and your pack of dogs! Thats a great looking cat. I talked with Mike yesterday and he's feeling pretty sick right now!!!

I remember when SW opened the first store in N Phx and they hundreds and hundreds of duck and goose decoys taking up floor space. I doubt they ever sold, probably just shipped them off to another store in a market with better duck hunting. It was pretty apparent that they didn't do much due dilligence on the Arizona hunter demographics. Things have changed a lot since then, but I think there problems now are more money related.

Glen Beck was talking about it on his new TV show last night. He's supposed to be interviewing the ranch owner here pretty soon.

Gino, I responded to her with the exact same question. If it's really about managment and creating opportunity then why not manage archery deer like we do for bear? It seems to me like it would be a good idea.

Just a guess, but I'll bet as soon as the sale of SW is final the new ownership will get the stores shelves re-stocked pretty quick. I highly doubt they're buying them out so they can be the new owners of a failing retail chain.

Looks like a solid 10 inches or so here at my house in Prescott. The kids are loving it and no school to boot!