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I can tell you its gonna be extremely tough. If you are going to do this I really hope you will have some help available for packing if you get one down. The country is very rough and they are usually in some big nasty canyons. There are several people that hunt them in there, very gruelling hunt...BUT, at least you are hunting! Use it as great motivation to finally start that excercise program you have been wanting to do

Congrats on your tag. Wish I knew the unit better so I could offer help but hope it goes great for you.

With all due respect bc777, your analogy is off base. We arw talking about an oppurtunity here that we only get the prize( elk hunting) if we get " lucky" enough to win the lottery. In a raffle, the prize is usually something that any one of us can go buy any day of the week. All of us here must absolutely love the dream of going elk hunting due to the number of posts. I really believe if you are able to step back and look at this objectively, the only way that it can be truly FAIR, is with preference points. I know this isnt very popular with some folks given that we want to hold out hope that we might be the one to go on a long run of luck. However, this hope is only based on our belief that somehow it makes sense that I should have more oppurtunity to go archery bull hunting than someone else?! We all live here and pay taxes and go camping and everything else that goes along with it, I just think we should all have the same oppurtunities to go hunting. Please dont take this as a rant or a pushback, I have been lucky enough to have some great tags in my life. I just see the odds of getting drawn steadily decreasing and I would love to be able to count on going hunting a few more times in my career.I would think as Sportsman, most of us feel this way. Also understand that I realize this is probably never going to happen...

Only way to make it a truly fair system is to go to a preference point system IMO. I do not think its right that someone can draw tags 4 out of 6 years while someone else doesn't receive even one during that same period of time. This is the system that I would prefer here in Az. We have incredible Elk hunting here, and its a shame that people don't get to experience it because they aren't "lucky" enough to win the lottery. The only reason I can see people rejecting this system would be greed.; Under a preference point system, you still have to apply every year, so the G&F still gets the same revenue, and you would KNOW that every X amount of years, you are hunting. I doubt the state would ever change the system but I really think if we are interested in being fair, this is; the way to go...also, I think the only people that should be able to transfer a tag to a youth hunter should be the kids parents. Too many people have several family members applying with no intent of taking the tag. Bottom line is, all of us here love Elk hunting and I just want it to be a fair chance for all.

Nada for me but my 12 year old son pulled his first elk tag, Unit 1 late rifle bull. I simply could not be more excited. I have always hoped that I would get toto take him on a bull hunt, I cant wait to make these memories!

So was anyone able to get results last night? I cannot believe anyone took my post serious at all...just to clarify it is a joke. I had quite a laugh this morning when I saw a couple people actually wanting to believe it! Its just so hilarious how impatient we are so I couldnt resist....best of luck.

Wow, 7 points isnt much to pull that tag, very lucky indeed. Time to buy lottery tickets as well because your luck is running high! Congrats and best of luck. It will be a great hunt.

I heard from a VERY VERY reliable source that the results are going to post tonight between 1 am and 3 am. They will then close and come up every night during these times. This will be the only way to get results until they arrive in the mail. Good luck in finding out and remember that this is definately the pattern that will be used.

Sent you a pm yesterday...

Thanks Becker, it would be neat to know. I didnt think there would be very many in that class...

I knew they didnt specify that, I was just curious because I though they said how many scoreable points it had...just hoping someone might know. Definately not trying to relive the moment just always wondered how he stacked up.

He is 131 7/8 gross, 121 0/8 net. Had him officially measured several years ago just never sent in the papers...just curious about where he falls against other 3 points. Doesnt really matter, just curious.

Can anyone tell me what the top few scores are in B&C for a straight up 3 point(8 point Eastern count)? I am just curious where mine would fall among them. Thanks.

In talking with G&F, I guess it is very common for cards to get rejected. Dont know if this is the reason for alot of them or not....the bank said that if its within 15 minutes for the exact same amount they think the vendor is running a duplicate charge, thus they reject it.

I am with Bank of America. Like I said, I used my debit card, dont know if its different with credit cards or not. I am really nervous too, I called them and explained what the situation is and it sounds like theres not much I can do about it. I dont know exactly how the draw works as far as how they post if you are drawn but if they all hit at the same time I may be screwed...I knew better than to apply online!!