Bird Dog

Good job man! Looks like you have had a great experience.

I think most outfitters at some point forget that "we" were all the same types of hunters at one time. ie. not enough money to hire help or just looking forward to a good time with family and friends. I think guiding is the down fall of modern hunting because of the focus guide and outfitters usually place on the hunt including the money=success mentality. It is one thing to secure a deal and hunt on private land but to secure land that has roads developed and indirectly maitained by pulic dollars that cross public land is WRONG. The cattle permits that are used in most of Arizona are just that a privildge just as our hunting permits we buy. I am not saying all guides are bad there are many on this site that seem very reputable. Just somthing to think about when you draw your next archery elk hunt and scout as much as you can only to be cut off by your buddy making money with a complete stranger. I understand a bit about the "Mercer" ranch because back in 2002, I was around when "Lori" was very upset about the hunters not covering T.P. and leaving garbage in the camp sites. I spent my "Monday" morning picking up trash to help calm her down and then only to be told the next year I had to pay to access the ranch. Ok and so it is, but to lock up surrounding concessions of land that eliminates a good portion of the Western side of 32 is not right for a single outfitter. This battle needs to go to a higher place than just G&F because there are not enough resources at G&F to help. They are under staffed and in most cases work harder than they pay reflects. I believe this will become larger than just a 32 issue or other ranches eventually because the "cattle" people feel they own the world and have forgotten there land has always been shared. Why do you think everyone they have been around eventually they have faught. If they had to pay for the price of their business they would be a thing of the past. Unlike hunting that supports conservation with millions of dollars a year.

Very nice for sure! Looks like a great hunt was added with icing on the cake.

Well said Mike, I have missed his input!

Red Rabbit, that was very good post. I appreciate the thought and style of sharing your day with a favorite friend (Rica). I miss my "hoss" GSP. Sounds like you really enjoyed yourself and had a great hunt. Thanks for sharing.

Big enough with those cool points for me. This reminds me of a fella in college that ate an entire whopper in one bite! Those are great pics thanks for sharing.

Way to go Grong. Gotta love the orange man! Hopefully you will still have your ears later in life from not being fried like olde mr.sanders (KFC).

I would have to agree. Lighter bullets are tough on the teeth when you eat that little fella. I shot the 168gr Nosler Ballistic Silver Tip at 3275fps. It doesn't come appart and if anything it seems rather hard when I have done various recovery tests. It has not torn the coues in half I have shot. I know in a 300 win mag the 150gr. can be a bit violent and this is why I have stayed heavier. I have never been a fan of solid type bullets but I hear they sometimes shoot good. The gain in trajectory will be marginal with a lighter bullet at longer distance because of the nice ballistic coeffiecent of your heavier bullets.

I would say top of the "P&Y" club for Plump and Yummy!

AZ402, I think your avitar should have a "Grong" orange tank top on! Yea! Do it man!

Just a couple pics for "Grong" on this weekend of bear season. I was please to pack these out even if they are not "coues".

Yes, three different antlers. Actually my friend found a 4th that was brown in the same area. I guess sometimes you get lucky and find something your not really looking for. ie. bears.

You might have a career in the ministry Geoff. Well stated. Nothing better than having your closest people around to share these types of events you are a blessed person. AMEN!

Amen! Well said gentlemen! Miss mine for sure. This is very tempting.

AZ402 and I have had a long life of love affairds with the GSP! You Avitar is nice and no need to change your name unless you feel funny about it . AZ402 & I, have moved on/up to "Grong" these days. I may have to change my logg in.

I am in! I will have to load something "wicked" for the new .22-250 single. Something with a large cavity and, and , and , speeeedddd! 26" barrel should help!

Yea, you got to watch people for sure. One day you have a nice salt lick and the next you get pictures from third party or a complete stranger whom is excited to hunt elk off a lick you have started and maintained for a couple years. I guess all fair in love and war. People are funny that way about finding their own niche! Thiefs are not nice for sure. Good luck archery if you go! Don't give up just because others are in an area.

I would call "Dog man" or Randy Epperson of "Rimrock Outfitters". I don't think you would be disappointed in the opperation of his dry ground hounds.

Just a quiet stalker of the "grongulous" activity. Just kidding I think. Later, Jack

Me too! Jeff! Nice!

Josh, I can not wait for you to go get this guy either! Ha! I was wondering when you would get over the remorse from "Mr. mass" and be ready for another ambush. Like AZ402, I don't wana be right!

I hear you! I have the poor mans sheep hunt in Oct. 32 and built #12 for sheep.

I felt a disturbance in the antler boy's force...aka Grongulous radar when I saw that pup chewing on the antler. You know you can sacrifice the carpet a few times but a coues horn is out of the question.

Whoa! That would be awesome over a chronie! I bet with a 140 gr. it would be wicked fast! Nice slow burning powder with that 26" tube. Yeee haw!

Boy Bird Dog-- Great minds think alike. I shoot a 308 Norma Mag on a sporterized 03 Springfield--built it in the mid-60's. I use 79 1/2 gr of H4831 with a 165 Nosler Partition and a CCI Mag primer. Love the load!!!! BOB I love the 168's it has been awesome!