Simple Hunter

Look, there will always be two opinions to this topic. I've been through Inglewood, CA before and not been a crime victim, but just because I lucked out doesn't mean that I will advocate that it's okay to go to Inglewood, CA and walk the streets. I think that everyone needs to acknowledge the dangers, and they are clearly evident. If you like thrills and adrenaline rushes then it might be your deal. On the otherhand, if you think the adrenaline from the hunt is good enough and don't need the extra excitement then you might want to stay further north. You DO have better odds of being shot at in one of these southern units. And if you don't think shots are being fired, just ask BP and the Sherriff's office.

Nice G1's. I don't spend much time in 36C anymore, but when I did, we found more sheds and pickups' than any other southern unit. more apt to find a dead illegal alien these days.

Love it. I have a found dead buck with another beam coming out at the base of the right antler. Nice to see one in real life.

Where the heck did you find water? I am going to check some water holes in my hunt unit and am scared I am not going to find any water.

I wouldn't compare to last year. We had such an abnormally hot hunting season all the way through the December Hunt. It didn't get cold until after Christmas. This year we've had no rain and it's dry as can be. Cover will be different, water will be different, everything will be different. It's been a long time since it's been this dry down south. I think we'll all be in for a unusual hunt.

I've not been successful archery hunting...but I have gotten close enough to get shots off. If you are going to spot and stalk, then most likely you'll be in the more open grassy country, ocotillos and mesquites. I think Realtree with a lot of beige in it does the best. When I sit in a tree stand (juniper or cypress) I wear a darker camo with some orange in it. You'll probably be in the oaks and there will be a lot of orange leaf litter, especially with how dry it's been in 34A.

For a sun-devil, you sure think like I do.

Glad to know I am not alone in doing this. Anyways hope it gets better quick.

Nice pic. Was that a trail cam or a zoom lens? So close you can almost see the imperfections in his hide. Good luck, I'm looking for a muley too.

I don't know how to paste a link in this post but you can cut and paste the link below into your browser: http://www.azgfd.net/wildlife/land-managem...der/2009/06/22/

azhuntergirl, You should read the news more often...see link http://www.azgfd.net/wildlife/land-management-news/game-and-fish-officer-2-other-agency-employees-fired-upon-near-mexico-border/2009/06/22/

All those dead trees resembles the area near Rye off the beeline. Why don't you circle the bucks? I give up.

Hey, I recognize the century plant stalk right below the White oak. Hope you have an October tag!

Is that last pic of a miniature Bracheosaurus? Took me a while to figure that one out - nice pics.

Good luck getting him. I am going after Carp this fall myself - would love to see one his size. Though I'll be in the desert.

Forget about the score - you won't have the opportunity to wack a non-typpie like that very often.

By day I am a politically appointed official for a Southern Arizona County... I moonlight as a Civil Engineer doing drainage design, and floodplain management. Any developers, real estate folks, that need a hydrological opinion and or a study/report for a piece of property...send me a PM. Just one thing, If you do work in my County or are contracted with my County, I can't do work for you (Conflict of interest).

No such thing as the "Enviromental" branch. It is the "research" branch. I know the biologist who is running the bear and lion study, who did not even want to deal with the jaguar and wasn't involved with it his people did it with promition from other G&F people, and that biologist is a BIG time hunter. To think about axeing the research branch because it has nothing to do with the management doesn't make much sence to me. The bear and lion project first started to understand large carnivor movements between sky islands and the Wildlife Conservation Society got involved and it in turn got the boarder issue involved. We are lucky to have the research branch, most states will contract out that work to private companies. Call it what you will. I don't think we will agree on this one. The day the research branch makes our hunting opportunities bettter is the day that I will support them. The reality is that research is generally geared toward making a notable find and the popular culture is to find that humans are bad. Axe 'em.

...What I didn't mention is the Game Managment Branch is exceptional. They are outstanding and do a great job for our game and predator management. We just need to axe the "Bugs and Bunny" Branch.

Brother, you are in the wrong place. "Suspending all state wildlife management operations." Are you kidding me? You don't get it do you? The "Environmental" Branch (arm) of the G&F is the one who is responsible for this. These guys have nothing to do with game management. They weren't snaring bears and lions for population counts, they were snaring them to track them to see how horrible us humans and our "carbon emitting" lifestyles affect them. The results of this study would be used to halt the Fence Project and all Development in Southern Arizona by establishing open space corridors! The average yahoo environmentalist wacko has no idea how they even have a job - they have no idea that the reason they have a job, is because of Capitalism. Idiots. Give me a chance to tell you how I really feel about the anti-capitalist environmentalist socialist human-apologist wackos!

We all know there is 2 sides to the AZGFD: (1) Game and Fish Management ; and (2) Bugs and Bunny counting. #1 focuses on managing Game and Fish populations so that the general populace can recreate and harvest animals - it brings in a lot of revenue #2 focuses on keeping left wingers employed and funding overeducated scientists (as opposed to applied scientists) to do their research and to develop habitat conservation plans for non-game animals. This is a huge expense and brings in no revenue. I don't understand why our State Game and Fish has to spend time in the Bugs and Bunny counting aspect of wildlife. This should be left to the US Fish and Wildlife, and let our G&F department focus on managing game animals.

Here's the link to the story... http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/280970.php I am very worried what the enviro extremists will do with this - ban hunting in jaguar areas? stop the border fence? I don't see very much difference in a visiting jaguar than I do in a visiting pelican. Pelicans errantly fly into southern Arizona all the time but this is not their habitat. Jaguars probably do not prefer this habitat but occasion to find it when on the perimeter of their habitat. I say build the fence and keep these illegal jaguars out.

There has only been one (1) jaguar documented over and over again since 96 and that is Macho B. The jaguar that Warner Glenn caught on camera in the Peloncillos has not been seen repeatedly. Macho B is purportedly in the Atascosas. I have no doubt that Mr. Macho B is all by himself and may be the last jaguar to roam Southern Arizona. What Mr. Quimby says is historically accurate regarding jaguars, but Mexican grey wolves also roamed all of Arizona also. Look at the disaster of bringing them back and introducing them. Just so you know, I am not anti-jaguar, I love to see them at the zoo in Tucson, but if you haven't lived here long enough to know that environmentalists will use them as a catalyst to further their purposes, which is to remove humans from public land.

There are 79 Million Acres of National Park Service Land - currently off limits to hunting. If Congress was smart they would open up the National Parks to hunting with an average ratio of 1 permit (whitetail) for every 50 acres of NPS land. Now we know some NPS land is not suitable habitat for hunting whitetail like Death Valley National Park, etc. But other areas the density could be increased. As a result the Fed Government could sell 1,580,000 permits at $200 a piece - they could command that high a price as the odds for a trophy would increase - and the revenue would be 316 million just for deer. Do the same for other species and eventually were talking over $1 Billion dollars. The trickle down effect of the hunting (ammo purchases, lodging, taxidermy, meals, gas, etc.) would pump huge amounts of dollars into the local economies. The hunting revenue could be given back to the States for addressing budget shortfalls or as stimulus checks to those of us that PAY taxes.

If you look at the rules, it says if not in conflict with federal law...That's why I posted the other topic in this forum regarding the new federal law. It appears it may be broadly interpreted to include antlers as paleontological finds. National Parks already ban antler removal.