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"I'd really like to go this year" doesn't mean "I'm going this year. I wasn't asking". If I were someone that knew anything about wyoming antelope advice you'd be the last person I offered to help. Don't come asking for advice and when people give it to you you don't like it. Figure it out yourself. PS- I hope the "lowest density" wyoming unit you draw doesn't have any antelope left to kill when you get there because "you weren't asking". Pss- 21 points in az is as good as having 2 points and there's a chance you never draw a rifle az antelope tag in your life.

Hmm. . Well thats good to know. Makes things way more confusing but atleast there's an explanation.

Not saying you're wrong but are you sure on the apps vs applications? I've never seen that in past reports.

Yeah thats definitely all screwed up. I've said it for years, our draw system needs audited because this is quite common. Looking further down it looks like it's messed up all through the report. The missing tags are the ones they save for their YouTube crew.

So you didn't "collect" sheds, you didn't cross onto private land, you didn't do anything wrong but you did enough that they took it easy on you and didn't take your license for 5 years. Somethings not adding up. How about the full story instead of all the cryptic stuff?

Not knocking you but didnt you know shed hunting was closed? Seems like all northern states are closed up right now but that sucks. So if you had one more shed they could have hit you with another 5 points and taken your license for 5 years? I'd avoid Colorado for a while because just one more infraction even a small one could end your hunting for 5 years.

Give us the deets. . .might help someone else avoid the same problem.

Sooo . .. whatcha do?

Not looking like today. Would have been posted by now. Maybe tomorrow since deadline was extended a day? If not, next Wednesday is the posted deadline for results but I'm sure they can change that if they feel like it.

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How much $$$$ you got? Because mule deer down there is expensive AF

IF there's 2 tags and IF they go in the bonus pass then obviously odds of going in the random are 0. But just because in the past both tags have gone in the bonus pass doesn't make it certain that it will go in the bonus pass in the future. (See example above). The odds are extremely high that they do go in the bonus pass but not a 100% guarantee. Especially now that there are 114 people in the next group below the 2 max point holders. Most of those guys are getting old and applying for other tags not wanting to compete for the 2 tags in 22. They'd rather hunt somewhere than die trying for 22. ( Don't get me wrong I'm on your side that the odds are it never happens but it's not 0. Simply showing that odds of one of these limited entry tags is also about 0.)

You are correct on how they do it. It's 80/20 split between all tags. Now don't get me wrong it would take some crazy luck but it would still be possible for 22 to be drawn in the random. There's 2 residents with max and 114 in the next level down. Let's say 115 for max point group. There's about 150 sheep tags. 30 go to bonus pass. Of those guys at the top point groups not all are trying for 22. I can see from last year's report 25 guys in the top two point groups tried for 22. That leaves approximately 90 other guys up there trying for other hunts. Say the draw is run and for some crazy reason 30 of those 90 guys are pulled first and they give the 30 bonus pass tags away withiut 22 being drawn then 22 is available in the random draw. The odds are incredibly small of that happening but they aren't 0 which is my point. Similar odds to pulling one of these limited entry hunts.

I've never won the lottery and buy a ticket every week so the odds are 0%. (Same line of thinking) and still doesn't change the facts that the odds aren't 0%. Good try though.

You realize drawing a unit 22 sheep tag with less than max isn't a 0% chance right? It's statistically about 0% but it's not 0%. Enough crazy things happen and it can be drawn. Especially now that the top point group is down to 2 and the next group has 114 people. Majority of those 114 people aren't going to try for 22. There's roughly 30 tags in the bonus pass and if all 30 of those tags were to go to other hunts then 22 would be open to a random draw tag. Insanely low odds of it happening but it's not 0%

Ok, I take it back. Odds for these tags are about 5 times worse than a 22 sheep tag. Good luck.

Odds are about as good as drawing a unit 22 sheep tag with 2 points.

Didn't know that lake existed until I saw a fb post about it. Is it true all that water is basically wasted because it's full of pesticides?

Lots of guys on monster muleys saying it's on schedule for this Wed the 19th. All the links and harvest report stuff disappeared same time this year as last year.

Thank goodness Phoenix isn't the only place in AZ. . . and it was still just barely below average there. Significantly above average in most places.

Do you live under a rock?

Just look at the proposals. They are the same.

Saw the gate open off 300 towards woods wide open just two days ago. Also saw it wide open by chevelon work station. So someone busted them open or someone forgot to lock them. Also depends which district you talked to. Coconino is way more crazy about keeping their gates closed longer. Apache sitgreaves is much more relaxed about opening things back up.

Don't know if the gates are what decide if it's closed but gates are open on 300 at woods canyon and people are going in and out. Can't imagine woods or willow would have any ice. Been pretty warm last week or so and gonna be smoking hot for the next couple days.