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Congrats on a nice bird and some good bone to boot.

Congrats on a such sweet success.

I too thought that it was run very poorly and also agree with your read on the commission and how confused they were. I am happy of the outcome but after sitting through the process I think it could go either way with out any real means. I could not believe that the majority of the time they didn't ever know what they were voting on. I do feel that Martin listen to the public and any other information that was presented and tended to lean towards the common sense side of things. I also believe that Leonard did a good job of notifiying the commission that there was a ton of public outcry even though he did not reccomend a change to the proposed regs. Dick thank you for speaking this morning and even though the commission tried to get you to hurry up you did a very good job bringing up your points. Phil Cramer

Keith I agree with your view about Martin listening and actually voting according to the puplic input, there for a while I didn't think anyone was going to second the motion for pushing the archery hunt back but Martin finally did. I can't speak about the Kiabab either because I haven't read the book! I can't believe how out of touch the commission is with the actual department and the hunting community and this was very apparent when they were talking about how difficult it would be to have some units open while others would be closed because it would have to be printed on the tag...I just about lost it on that one. This was the first meeting that I have attended and thankfully by the time they got to me for my opinion all I had to do was agree with the second option but I was extremely disappointed with the ignorance of the commission with maybe the exception of Martin. I did however think that Leonard did a very good job with addressing the commissioners and letting them know how much public outcry the department had received. I too left at the lunch break so I guess we'll have to wait for the rest of the story. Phil Cramer

I for one use salt.....to set my trail cameras on. I have not hunted over it all though I have thought about it. The picture quality that you can get over salt is by far better than a standard trail or even water. The buck that I chased around for several years and finally harvested I never got him on a camera over salt but by being in the woods to check my cameras and replinish the salt I was able to keep track of him. I have also had numerous used up cards and dead batteries because cattle have come into the salt so I don't know how it would be proven that I established the lick for deer or a rancher did for cows! This is unbelievable to me and I for one would like to see some of this data about it actually increasing the success rates. I am a firm believer in using the laws that we allready have established and go after the people who abuse it but we can't let them continue to do this to us. Does anyone know when they will be presenting this to the public or taking public input?

Great looking buck! Gonna want to keep track of that one.

Sounds like you had one heck of an experience on that one. Great pictures and story. Thanks for sharing it with us. I too hope the dogs heal quickly. Congrats on such a nice Cat..stay after em guys.

Great buck and good looking mount. Weller's has my buck from this last November hunt and I can't wait to get it back and your post just adds to the anticipation. Phil

Holy smokes what a toad! Good luck on finding the other side but more important find the buck!

Sweet finds Josh. Thanks for posting the pictures and story. Too bad that both bucks have been taken allready. I was really looking forward to some trail cam pictures of those bucks. Phil

Well aint that a kick in the rear! Now that's something I would like to see.

Most of the pictures of my girls are on the home computer but here are a few that I had on my work puter.

The first would have to be my coues from 06. It is the best because my dad was there with me when I took him and we had spent so much time trying to harvest him. The second would be my 04 archery bull. Again because it was a father and son joint effort. And the last would be my 04 archery muley.

Congrats to Jennifer and good job on the picture.

Awesome bucks, great story, great pictures and video. Thanks so much for sharing it with us and congrats to you and Beth. Someday I will have to get down there. I have met the guys from Mexifari at the ADA Banquet and they are great. Thanks again, Phil

Cool finds Neo! I love finding a horn to make a set, especially when you have found one and then later stumble upon the other side.

Hey Nate happy late birthday! Hope you had a good one. Give me a call sometime so we can catch up. Phil

Nice digs! You did a great job and congrats on all your hard work paying off.

Thats just too funny! Made for great pictures though.

Freakin awesome shed! Man that is a good day for sure. Thanks for posting it and I would have to agree on getting the trail cams up to find that hog. Phil

Awesome stuff Josh! I love the coues shed!

Awesome pictures. Thanks for posting them.

Sweet pictures guys. Keep em coming!

As always great story, great horns, and great pics. Keep em coming Josh.

I have made it for the last two years and it was a blast but being over Easter weekend I can't make it a third. I wish I could though. Phil