I was using Winchester brand 150 grain power point. ac guy makes a good point with regards to the .243. I used that caliber rifle for over 18 years with 80 grain bullets and took down both coues and mule deer. I only recently bought a 30-06 and wasn't familiar with what size of load to try out. The only grains I could find in 30-06 caliber were .150, .165, and .180. As I stated before, only a dumb luck chance trip to Sportsmans Warehouse that I discovered that 30-06 came in .125 grain, but that was already after I'd zeroed in at the range and did'nt have time to switch. Turns out it didn't matter anyway, I just came in from my Oct. 36A hunt empty handed. I passed up a spike buck second to the last day, and that was the only buck I seen the entire trip out. I stared that deer down for ten minutes at 50 yards wondering if I should take em' or not. I came away with the fact that, that buck was dead meat standing, and yes it would have felt good to harvest a deer this season, but I felt even better letting him go, knowing that he may grow up to be a monster someday, and that I may even be the one to take him when he's all grown up. The good news was that my brother TATA@27 just bagged a nice 4x3 this evening. I'm sure he'll post the pictures as soon as he can. Good job Richard now we are both tied with 13 kills apiece ( bothers always competing)