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I have called the Gila National Forest and asked about this several times over the years and they have always said 24 and it is considered abandoned. I do think that it is up to each forest.

This is interesting because in NM if it is left out over 24 hours it is considered abandoned..

great job

This year I have been stripping down my setups to see if I have been chasing fads or "sexy" and not using what works... I have been using the Max Hunters for 5 years...I think I got them for free or something... Anyway, I fletched for AAE 4 inch lower profile vanes and I was surprised how loud the Max Hunters were compared to the other 4 inchers.. I think it is because the materials are much stiffer. The 4 inchers steer my broadheads just as well. I am switching back... BUT you should test... See what works for you...

Great job

Sounds good... let me know... but if you can sell them as a bundle do it.

I can afford 1/2.... I can paypal you the money but it will be awhile until I can get to Cruces.... Do these come with your secret coues spot in 24?

Hey Kevin Would break it up? J

Does it matter if you own the building?

You can work yourself into circular arguments with all this... Bottom line is that it isn't public land, and you can only camp in very few places. The Lessee has alot of say on the land. You can't even cut wood or gather food. Get a small game license and it solves a lot of access problems. I think we all understand that in some years that the ranching business is tough but it is just that, a business on land that they don't own. Not all business succeed. Did you know you can get a bank loan against leased land??? Crazy... Nobody is forcing lessees to run a business on State Trust Land, it is a choice. During the SLO Primaries this year access was a hotly contested issue. I think we have a real shot and getting more access if we can change the party in power.

There are a bunch of things to unpack with your reply. 1) Non-hunters can gain access to State Trust Lands by purchasing a permit. - That being said the SLO has two LOE's... 2) The Dept of Game and Fish pays the SLO 2 mill for hunter/angler access.... This was raised from 600,000 recently. This is pocket change as the SLO makes it's money off of oil and gas leases. Hundreds of millions in a year.. 3)it is not a law it is policy. A new State Land Commissioner can come in and make the change statewide and we can all camp on state trust land. As you can imagine this is VERY Political and breaks down along party lines. 4) This is what is so scary about the transfer of federal lands to state lands. Under the Feds we have access, if it goes to State Trust it is subject to political whims.. 5) Elections matter... Jason

We are working hard on getting the camping on state trust land issue changed, among other issues. There are a few spots in that unit where you can camp on trust land and you can find them on the SLO website. Warning it can be a pain to navigate. J

HAHAH... that is funny.... You just went Glory Days Al Bundy on us... I always do the same.. hahah

as long as they speak English The Mexicans do speak English... the Texans... well they speak Texan.. ahaha

Rich Texans and Rich Mexican Nationals... Plenty of places to hike around... There is a tiny creek around the three rivers campground that is loaded with brookies...

Brother... that is awesome.. the kids are getting big.... It is cool how you find them in totally different habitat.. J

Good for you... Everyone can use a lesson or two..

Hey Crew... Does anyone have any recommendations for a Archery DIY-style Outfitter? Almost like a mapping service? thanks J-

Thank you

Call Ivan and the Reel Life.. he will help you out... tell him jason from silver city sent you

Get OnXMaps... it is a great tool for that unit. And you are correct, you can't camp on State Trust Land..

Look outside the hunting industry... Steep and Cheap always has a few nice ones for really good prices.. I use an Osprey...

In NM, we had several outfitters using cameras that can transmit pics to hunt bears... Basically, put over bait or water and wait for the pics to come thru then head to the area with the dogs... Not wide spread but there is the potential.

HEY Crew.. Just a quick little video on some of my shed hunting trips this year and some cool trail cam pics... https://youtu.be/qjLiDWLIIfk

Thanks crew.. I live in the Gila... Silver City... Where have I been? Working on Public Lands issues for TU and BHA... but I needed to get back to work so I can hunt again... hahah...