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the best solution for all issues surrounding game processing is simple. kill the animal cleanly, field dress carefully and right away, wash the carcass and remove any hair that might have gotten on the meat during skinning, protect the carcass from insects and allow it to cool. the one most important point everyone is missing is we have no control over the animal until it is in our facility. prior to that it's all in your hands. take care of it. thank you larry Okay so it seems that we will not be able to get a direct answer. no big deal... It must be an industry secret or something... When I have animals processed I always pay by the out-the-door weight... That way the hunter knows that it is in the processors best interest to save as much meat as possible... BUT the bottom line is the best solution is to do it yourself.... Good Luck J-

I am not trying to push the issue but an estimate is just that... an estimate, how much would you estimate the average hide to weighs? what about the head? How much would you say the bones weigh in a quarter? Hunters are going to ask.... It only makes sense to have some sort of idea of how much meat they are going to get otherwise you are always going to end up in the scenario. Even is you estimate say 200 pounds they take 40 pounds off for error... If they get more than fine, but at least you have explained to them what they go and why they got it. You are asking hunters to "trust you" and they don't have any clue if they can trust you or not... Jason

Maybe you could come up with ball park figures... I am sure that you understand that hunters give everything they have to harvest animals and by the time everything is said and done the meat that they get cost $20 + a pound... Maybe if you started this year by weighing as they come in they determining about how much meat goes out the door then hunters will have a better understanding.. Give yourself some leeway but I think hunters would really appreciate some sort of guesstimate. j-

I agree with Casey... I think I am pretty much screwed.... I want to see how accurate I can get this thing.... I tied flies professionally for about 7 years and this is alot like that.... J-

It looks like I have some research to do... In most cases could i have used the Precision Mic but because of the particulars of this bullet I can't? jason

great job... jason

Larry Maybe we can use this to educate us.... When someone brings in an animal whole what can one realistically expect to get as far as cut and wrapped meat. thanks Jason PS... If you want maybe you could start another thread.

HELLLPPPPP!!!!! Okay as you guys know I am new to reloading... I loaded my first batch of Sierra BT last week and they shot pretty well. So I thought I just need to fine tune my loads and I would be good to go... Well, I finally got some official load data from Berger so tonight I decided to try to load a few rounds of the Bergers. Well I also got a Precision Mic from RCBS tonight from Midway and I was going to put all the pieces together to make my super load. WELL... I looks like I am going to need a bullet puller. The Headspacer part no big deal... That is just measuring, subtracting then adjusting the die.... NO PROBLEM... Okay So now I am trying to find the SEATING DEPTH... Okay not so good. I placed the free bore tool into my chamber and I got .080 cool... Now I figure I just need to make some dummy rounds of .070, then create the load and repeat the process for .060 and .050 depths... RIGHT... Please correct me if I am wrong.... So I setup my RCBS Press as indicated I place a shell in the hold drive the ram up(adjust the die) and then back the die up one turn. Okay... That looks good, I then test my dummy round in my SAKO... and it works fine.. NOW.. I test it on the Precision Mic. Well, that is were the problem starts. IT IS WAY OFF..... If the purpose of the Precision Mic is to be able to modify the seating depth then I am doing something way off but the Mic just about bottoms out with the Bergers. Is it because the bullets are so long and the shoulder(don't know what it is called) is so far back from the tip? My bullets would be WAY LONG.... Any Ideas? Jason

do you have pics? jason

Hey Everybody... Just a little information I contacted Walt Berger at Berger Bullets because I wanted to get an official load for my bullets.... Anyway Walt is super cool and he mentioned that they will be having a reloading manual out in the spring and that if you want you can contact Andrea (sales service representative) Andrea.Cobos@CARANPRECISION.com and she will email you when she has the loading guides out. J- he recommended the following for my .300 win mag 300 Winchester Magnum Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio 150/155 Grain WW WXR 74.0 3041 79.0 3259 101.1% 150/155 Grain IMR 7828 SSC 73.5 3030 78.6 3263 100.6% 150/155 Grain VIHT N160 73.0 2983 77.0 3157 99.6% 150/155 Grain RE-22 74.0 3058 78.6 3259 102.2% 150/155 Grain H4350 69.0 3000 73.2 3180 95.2% 150/155 Grain NORMA MRP 74.5 3067 79.5 3188 101.3% 150/155 Grain Ramshot Hunter 69.5 3022 74.0 3206 91.4% 150/155 Grain AA XMR 3100 73.0 2958 77.8 3161 102.3% 150/155 Grain IMR 4831 68.5 2999 73.0 3182 94.1% 150/155 Grain H4831 SC 74.5 2957 78.8 3145 98.8% 150/155 Grain H414 67.5 2984 71.0 3128 84.9% 300 Winchester Magnum Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio 168 Grain AA 4350 67.5 2972 71.0 3111 91.7% 168 Grain IMR 7828 SSC 74.0 2973 77.8 3158 97.8% 168 Grain VIHT N165 73.5 2887 77.6 3047 100.2% 168 Grain RE-22 73.5 2975 77.6 3145 99.1% 168 Grain H4831 SC 72.5 2975 76.5 3018 95.7% 168 Grain NORMA MRP 74.0 2986 78.0 3152 97.6% 168 Grain Ramshot Magnum 79.0 2931 83.4 3128 100.6% 168 Grain AA MAG PRO 75.5 2889 79.8 3072 97.3% 168 Grain H1000 78.5 2947 83.0 3144 104.1% 168 Grain AA XMR 3100 73.5 2895 77.0 3054 99.1% 168 Grain IMR 4831 68.5 2930 72.0 3064 93.5% 168 Grain RE-25 75.0 2944 78.9 3102 102.5% 168 Grain RE-19 71.0 3002 75.0 3083 97.4% 168 Grain IMR 4350 66.5 2971 70.0 3110 91.4% 300 Winchester Magnum Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio 175 Grain WW WXR 73.0 2922 77.0 3084 96.9% 175 Grain IMR 7828 ssc 73.0 2936 77.0 3105 96.9% 175 Grain VIHT N165 72.0 2810 76.8 2994 99.3% 175 Grain RE-25 76.0 2967 80.0 3123 104.0% 175 Grain H1000 78.0 2914 82.0 3084 103.0% 175 Grain NORMA MRP 74.0 2969 77.7 3119 97.3% 175 Grain RAMSHOT MAGNUM 79.5 2943 83.6 3122 102.9% 175 Grain AA MAG PRO 77.0 2940 81.0 3108 98.8% 175 Grain RE-22 73.0 2938 76.8 3091 98.2% 175 Grain AA XMR 3100 72.0 2837 76.1 2996 98.4% 175 Grain H4831 SC 73.0 2887 77.0 3056 98.5%

Dude... that bites... At least you had a good time... I am surprised you saw any deer it has been so dang hot.... Hey I think you are operating on my mother-in-law in a few weeks... Can you carve my initials in her foot? or maybe make her scar look like Jesus... :lol: :lol: Jason

Did I ever post these... Notice the times... Jason

Could it be possible that those tags were earmarked for NR but not enough NR applied? That happens in NM but I can't remember how AZ handles its NR tags.. Jason

great job... j-

Personally I think that makes a big difference most of the good processors that I have dealt with change by the pound cut and wrapped... That way it is in there best interest to give you as much of your meat back as possible... Jason

How did she charge you? By the deer or out the door weight? Jason

DUDE.... THAT ROCKS... GREAT JOB... JASON

it works... but becareful trying to shoot thru fences... I know FIRST HAND how easy it is to hit the wire... :angry: take care. jason

awesome... create job jason

Dude... that is soooo awesome... Man I miss alaska.. j-

wow.. nice job... jason

Dude.. Great job.. jason

OUCH... that hurt.... That is exactly like saying... "Well, she has a nice personality".... Dude... Don't worry about... You shot a deer great job.. j-

Dude... that rocks... Great job.. jason

wow... great bucks.. jason