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Cot dam. Azgfd is Pathetic, why set a deadline at all? Just starting putting it on the front of the reg due by "approximately" a certain date. And if azgfd is reading this, listen morons go back to paper apps 1 time a year. You obviously can't get the internet thing right, cut your losses. I'm waiting on that dumb and dumber moment when they " totally redeem themselves!" Doubt it will happen in my lifetime.

was just down at AZGFD, what i was hearing makes me think theyll be an extension

some dude they found on craigslist im sure.

not to mention how many thousands AZGFD misses out on with those $13 fees.

i smell, another delay like last year.

Our other passion! Posted by the SeaCoues Chum Master. whos the dude with the triple outboard center console ive seen post on instagram. he was down in SC, appears the dude is from here and hunts. was wondering if maybe he was on this board.

Takes a poacher to know a poacher I guess. This is disgusting! Why am I not surprised to find a grip and grin photo with this guy in it? Reminds me of the cop in Colorado that got caught and convicted of poaching and tried to influence public officials, destroy evidence, you know Shawn Wagner stuff! If I ever get stopped by this moron in the field I'm calling the County Sheriff immediately. I'll let them sort it out! i thought thats the bull mclendon killed with the auction hunter in Sky Hi Retreat? edit: aware me on wagner, he was the dude who poached the elk then sued and made money off it or something right?

ya i got in no problem but now i cant get my dads app to go so i said to heck with it. im going to put in a paper app for him.

we stayed at the howard johnson, i think its called something else now. dude the drive isnt even that bad, but we did it at night (bad idea) got pulled over outside of hermosillo for no reason other than to get the "mordida." we actually didnt even pay them, and they let us go.

i only put in last day, always will. getting a 2 bonus pt desert bighorn is all the superstition ill ever need. got in at about 6:55pm last day when i was living in pinetop. Its a gamble, but I can respect that. I'll take all the luck I can get. But I think AZGFD needs to post a disclaimer in the regs and on their website stating that there will be no deadline exceptions for website malfunctions. It might encourage people to get their apps in sooner. Why don't they just fix it?

i only put in last day, always will. getting a 2 bonus pt desert bighorn is all the superstition ill ever need. got in at about 6:55pm last day when i was living in pinetop.

on my elk hunt in 1 last year i met some kids that got drawn only because of that delay last year.

thats not high tower though. high tower was a big butt typical

goes to show how little i know about judging coues deer. i thought he looked big in those 2010 pics but not that big

im doing mine now, i got deer in alright but bighorn is becoming a problem

is it this one or the high tower buck they got in trouble for. the high tower thread was removed by admin

theres a pic of a 196" buck from the rez from like 60's in a boone and crockett book i have. he's the one i want.

yet still WAY better than CA. i rarely come across hypodermic needles on the beach in RP

"The proper function of man is to live, not to exist. I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my time." Jack London i did my living while i was in the army. now my job is to try and get my daughter ready and secure a future for her. I thank you for your service and God bless you and your descent, but I must ask .. and also to AZLance... I travel to Rocky Point, Caborca, Nogales, Hermosillo in another words, all over the state of Sonora 6 to 7 times per year... What's the problem with traveling there? To dangerous? Please explain. Ernesto C Ernesto, you must have learned to read in Mexico... because I never said not to go there. I just posted an article that most who go to Mexico should read. It is always good to be aware of your surroundings. I have been going to Rocky Point (Los Choncos) since I was a boy. And now that my tastes are more refined , I prefer fishing in Guymas/San Carlos. San Carlos doesn't have all the college kids drinking and shooting off fireworks all night. And the terrain is hands down more beautiful in San Carlos /Guymas. And the fishing in San Carlos is fabulous! Reeling in a Marlin, Sailfish, or a Dorado beats a Trigger fish or Cabrilla any day. it looks deery down there too! i havent been to san carlos in forever, need to get back down there. saw theyre whacking the big dorado right now and sails.

youve had that in your avi for a couple years havent you, is that buck still on the hoof?

I hate to break it to you but there are several jaguars roaming southern AZ, not just 1. I know that at one point AZG&F had 5 collared. I know the guys that chase lions down there with dogs have treed many but purposely don't post picture of it nor talk much of it. AZ does not want any land in Southern AZ deemed habitat for jaguars. If the feds recognize it as natural habitat for a roaming jaguar then it becomes a non-huntable protected area and we're screwed. This is actually not correct. I made a similar post a while back when the critical habitat rule was first published. As I said then, I rarely talk about my job because I know there is so much ant-Fed sentiment on here, but I work for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Arizona (northern AZ). I also spend most of my free time hunting and fishing and teaching my kids about hunting, fishing, and conservation. I try hard to use my status as both an endangered species biologist and hunter to educate folks about what Federal protections really mean. AGFD has not had 5 jaguars collared. We'd have been briefed on that and it would have been a big deal. There was one collared. Its entirely possible that there are multiple jaguars running around southern Arizona and they haven't been brought to the attention of AGFD or FWS. But if lion hunters are treeing them incidentally to their normal lion-hunting activities, they will not get in trouble for harassing an endangered species. If that were the case, you'd have heard about Warner Glenn and Jack Childs getting in trouble for treeing the three (2 in AZ, 1 in NM) jaguars they have treed over the years. They didn't get in any trouble and have been great conservation partners over the years. Unless a FWS Special Agent can prove that a jaguar was intentionally treed, the FWS can't and won't prosecute. We're really not bad to work with, I promise. As for habitat becoming non-huntable if it becomes federally protected, that's not true either. I guarantee you that 1000s of hunters in AZ hunt in land designated as critical habitat for some species protected by the FWS and they've been doing it for decades. A critical habitat designation simply means that that particular habitat is deemed essential for the recovery and conservation of the species, but does not, in any way, stop private land owners or, in this case, hunters from doing ANYTHING. All it means is that Federal land management agencies have to come talk to the FWS about their projects and how those projects can still be carried out, but in a way that ensures habitat remains intact. I hunt in critical habitat all the time when I'm off duty. Again, it has NO BEARING on hunters. I'm not posting this to start an anti-Fed debate or discussion. I'm simply trying to do part of what the American People pay me to do every day and educate folks as to what the ESA does and doesn't do. Anytime anyone wants to sit down and look at the ESA and talk about what it can and, more importantly CAN'T do, I'm happy to help out. Like I said before, once you take the time to listen and learn, you'll find out that (for the most part), biologists from the FWS, especially those who hunt/fish or understand hunitng/fishing, are great to work with. And to the original post, that's definitely a bobcat. Patrick Jr. nailed it on the head as to why. I appreciate you posting and clearing up what I had been told. I might have cut some corners of the specifics but the way it was explain to me by the AZG&F biologist who just retired this year was at one point in time we as a state were in possible jeopardy of losing huntable land due to the feds determining that a portion of Southern AZ was part of the jaguar's natural habitat. This is how it was explained to 100 hunters at a local predator hunters meeting back when the macho B incident occurred. He also told us that macho B was not the only jaguar they were keeping track of. I personally know of a very successful and well-known houndsman whose dogs have treed many jaguars. I sold him some confinement cages and we sat and spoke at length. They pull the dogs off and the jaguar is free to go. Those dogs can't tell the difference between a bobcat, lion, or jaguar. They give chase to any and all. Once the animal is IDs I'm sure they back off. I am positive they want no bad PR. These are they type of civil discussions I absolutely love. Hunters have never been in jeopardy of losing huntable land. The reality is that southern Arizona is, in fact, part of the jaguar's natural habitat. It has been (as has most of the state) since before white settlers came here. One thing that doesn't get made public is that there are some issues which cause great consternation between FWS and AGFD. I'm not surprised that it was explained as you describe it. I have a bunch of good friends and colleagues at AGFD and I have a good working relationship with many others there. But on some issues, there is bad blood between our offices. To be fair, its not all on AGFD's shoulders. We have our share of biologists who are difficult to work with and just as close-minded. In reality, AGFD does not understand how the ESA works as well as they think they do, overall. There are some there who absolutely get it, though. But, again, we have individuals (emphasis on individuals, not the agency) who abuse the ESA, too, and assert authority they don't have. Macho B was not the only jaguar being kept track of in Arizona at that time, that's for sure, but he was the only one collared. The Macho B incident brought much unwanted attention to both agencies. That's about all I can discuss about Macho B at this time. As for critical habitat and jaguars, I have my personal opinions that do not necessarily represent the FWS' official position on the matter. I can also tell you that I'm not the only one. Its tough when you (collectively as an agency) are told to do something by a Federal judge who has no understanding of biology. We originally produced a "not prudent" determination for jaguar critical habitat, but a District Court judge threw it out and forced us to write what you see. Critical habitat is there, we didn't back off the determination, but, again, it has no bearing on anyone's hunting, hiking, fishing, or camping activities on Federal land. You are also correct in that lion dogs can't tell the difference between cat species, which is why we will never prosecute a houndsman for treeing a jaguar or ocelot. They are out conducting lawful activities and not intentionally breaking any Federal laws. The houndsman I've spoken with absolutely don't want bad PR and most of them are excited to see a jaguar. And from my experiences, yes, they back off once they know what they have. Great pics, by the way! Again, great discussion and I hope you find it sincere that I take my job working for the American People very seriously! how do you know that though? i dont know anything about it of course, but im the type of guy that doesnt want to give an inch in case they decide to take a mile. i mean, wouldnt it just be fodder for anti's to use against hunters?

so few tags how i look when the results come out

thread is pretty much useless without pics, who the fukk is sweets?

right on, this is one i havent seen before. great picture they got.