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This one is pretty tough but lets give it a try!!!

Been in Lapeer, MI since Christmas and just got transferred to St. Claires Shore! Landing in Phoenix October 15th and its about time! Looking for an older model low miles Toyota Tacoma for Cole! Hoping to stick close to $6000 but Craigslist tells me Im loco!!! Know anybody sitting on one they want to get rid of let me know! Im shopping!!!

Here is what I believe to be a wolf pup! We were playing cards on the back porch of my dads summer home in Alpine! All the sudden we noticed a cow elk blitzing from the trees and then realized this little guy was running for his life! Then we noticed two others coming towards the cow from behind! She turned on them and eventually sent them all packing!!!

Dang Del....you didn't even blink on that one.......

Cody daughter??? Dang...sounds like a fun trip...... .47 ain't much but it sure will keep you out of the money round!!!

Was that your girl running barrels the other night??? Dam kids are growin up!!! Have to keep us posted on Africa, what a heck of an experience!!!

Thanks to all messages and responses!

Mapquest shows from I-17 to Clarkdale take the Cornville road! Is that a decent road? I dont trust Mapquest sometimes!!!

Suns take U of A 1st pick....Ayton.....could almost get me to keep tabs on the Suns.......but probably not.....

US Rep Joe Kennedy from Mass......is putting together a relief fund for illegal immigrants showing up at the border.......upside down stuff....wish he would worry about his people here in the USA..

Whew.......reminds me of ...................... relief society....................jk.................way overboard on all counts!!!! Do unto others as you would have them do unto you....... Grasshopper always wrong in argument with chicken. Lord bless me with a great tag .............................. Glad they got the fire out Hope we get some rain soon Cornbagger has nothing on this gig...... 7-.08 is a girl gun High dollar tags for rich people

My shop sits just inside Snowflake city limits! Fire sits about 23 miles west and oddly when this fire started the wind was blowing smoke right at us! Watched two tanker planes headed that direction! Thanks to the ones out there putting it out! DAM gotta pay attention out there, no room for sparks!!!

https://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/mesa/video-young-bear-spotted-in-mesa-neighborhood

So Ty Solomon has been frantically working on this project for a month.....I let him build it because he had completed everything worth points and I always let kids......play.....as long as it is not too big of a project........ I have extra materials that I will let them use and they have to show me a drawing or sketch of what they have in mind. These are jr. high students rememeber. When this kid left my room a couple of days ago, it had been sanded and stained and that was it. I was actually pretty proud of him because honestly, I didn't help him with one single thing, he just worked and asked simple questions for approach and how to but it was all him!!!! He walks through the door today and hands it to me and said here this is for you!!!! What the heal!!!!!! That right there is enough to make a grown man cry!!!!

Interesting article as I have not notices those "wild" horses having any trouble going where they want, when they want or how they want......if there is water to be had....they will get to it..... http://www.wmicentral.com/news/latest_news/advocates-say-horses-need-water-now/article_b210138a-cdbc-59bd-8bdb-06dfaed16a36.html HEBER — The national, non-profit wild horses advocacy group, Citizens Against Equine Slaughter (CAES), have reached out to the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests (ASNF) with a request to transport water to a herd of 15-20 horses within the 300-450 horses that make up the total Heber wild horses population. Advocates fear that the horses, also referred to as the “Heber wild horses” and “the Heber herd” may succumb to dehydration as extreme drought conditions have caused water holes, stock ponds and natural sources of water to completely dry up. CAES representatives report that one horse has already died and that it’s a matter of time before more suffer the same fate. This particular herd cannot access water due to fencing that runs north/south in the area. “It’s not an issue of gates being open or closed because there aren’t gates in that stretch of fencing,” says Val Cecama-Hogsett of the Oregeon extension of CAES who is working with Arizona and local-area wild horse advocates. Local residents that advocate for the wild horses and members of CAES contacted Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests representatives last week to ask for permission to transport water to the horses. However, there seems to be confusion as to what can be done and by whom. “The community members are willing to take water to these horses right now,” said Cecame-Hogsett. “There should be some access for the horses to traverse. They need to be able to traverse the whole territory for water and for breeding and maintaining the genetic health of the herds,” she added.The ASNF understands the problem to be closed gates. However, CAES says that gates aren’t the root cause in this situation. “There are no gates where these horses are,” explains Cecama-Hogsett of national advocate group, CAES. “The fences run north to south and there is no access on either end for the horses to get around. “There is water that they can see and smell to the west of them but they can’t get there.” Local wild horse advocates along with their national CAES partners say they have a solution — they will bring water in for the horses. However, the simplicity of bringing water into the area appears about as murky as the crusty remnants of dried-up water holes. There are a multitude of stakeholders that include but are not limited to the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests, the Arizona Game and Fish Department, local cattle ranchers, and Heber-Overgaard residents like Mary Hauser that actively advocate for the wild horses and are backed by national groups like CAES. The Independent contacted Steve Johnson, Apache-Sitgreaves National Forests (ASNF) Information Assistant, for comment as he is the lead staff with regard to issues surrounding the Heber horses. Johnson was unavailable to comment in detail because he was in Phoenix attending the ongoing, collaborate monthly Heber Wild Horse Territory meeting. “There’s a lot of moving parts. We are in the process of coordinating everything with all the affected stakeholders,” said Johnson. “There are a lot of caveats to bringing water into the forest during a drought. For example, we are in Stage 2 Fire Restrictions and there are serious concerns about motor vehicles causing sparks. We have to keep everyone in compliance and we have to cross every “t” and dot every “i” in order to protect all resources,” added Johnson. The ASNF has been in communication with the wild horse advocacy groups since last week and posted this message to their social media page on Friday, May 11: ”The ASNFs shares the public’s concern regarding the drought conditions on the Sitgreaves National Forest, and is working with the local public to ensure access to water for horses is available. The Black Mesa Ranger District is coordinating with local private individuals who have expressed an interest in providing water for the horses. Two of the private entities that are assisting with coordination efforts are the Heber Wild Horses Freedom Preservation Alliance and the Gila Herd Foundation. Private individuals may contact the Heber Wild Horses Freedom Preservation Alliance at 602-571-1232, and the Gila Herd Foundation at 928-978-3417. Gates are open throughout the territory and the horses are free to roam and access available water. Only a few gates may be closed for the safety of the horses where water has become dangerously low.” “The biggest statement I can make here is that this situation with a Heber wild horse dying of dehydration did not have to happen,” said Cecama-Hogsett of CAS. “Originally, the ASNF said that we (CAES) could not bring the horses water without going through the Arizona Game and Fish Department,” said Cecama-Hogsett. “Then they said that an environmental study had to be done. It wasn’t until Friday, May 11, that Steve Johnson from the ASNF said that we could give them water but there was already a dead horse by then.” According to CAES, Johnson also said that providing water to the Heber horses could create a situation where the water creates mud as it dries up, similar to that of the Navajo Nation where horses searching for water became stuck in the mud and died. “As long as the forage is enough for the horses and cattle, there isn’t a problem except for dealing with the interior fences,” say CAES representatives. “The cattle are moved around during different seasons. Opening the fences up, installing more gates and /or widening gates when the cattle aren’t in those areas help. The livestock numbers need to be decreased to give the horses principal use because the sanctuaries are to be managed principally for wild horse according to the 1971 policy enacted by Congress to manage wild free-roaming horses as components of public lands.” “Arizona should take a whole lot of pride because that Heber area ecosystem is beautiful simply because it’s working,” said Cecama-Hogsett. “That’s the big story — that Heber herd is the only one that IS working. Don’t fix what isn’t broken. Let us and the community step in and help if need be.”

Does that count?

What used to be......cotton fields!!!

I actually have taken horses to Out of AfricaI consider it recycling. Horses have to be terminal with vet letter and no drugs last 30 days. The staff there actually made it a pretty easy process. Offered to give the Phoenix Zoo one but they wanted it butchered and wrapped. Uhmmm, no. Not a bad alternative idea for the feral horses though.....lion meat at the Phx Zoo........win win???It would be fun to watch the lions catch them. Trifecta.......get rid of feral horses, feed the lions and charge admission to watch Lions vs Broncos and pay for the relocation of said horses....no kneeling for the anthem and no overpaid athletes!!! That is probably more than a trifecta......

I actually have taken horses to Out of AfricaI consider it recycling. Horses have to be terminal with vet letter and no drugs last 30 days. The staff there actually made it a pretty easy process. Offered to give the Phoenix Zoo one but they wanted it butchered and wrapped. Uhmmm, no. Not a bad alternative idea for the feral horses though.....lion meat at the Phx Zoo........win win???

Good story uglydude.......miracles do happen and dang that is awesome she got to do some hunting......hang in there!!!

Remember last year when the guy on the news told people to stay home and not come up on the mountain.........man he caught alot of grief from the businsses....

Probably need to change this..... 2017 TERRITORIAL CUP November 25, 2017 ASU - 42 zona - 30

If we had this much compassion for our homeless.....

DUH........................ https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa/2018/05/19/deaths-salt-river-horses-along-bush-highway-lead-safety-measures/625418002/ CONNECTTWEETLINKEDINCOMMENTEMAILMORE Five fatalities of horses being hit by cars since April along Bush Highway, three of them within the past week, have prompted new safety measures to warn drivers. Several message boards were placed along the highway, cautioning drivers to “slow down” and to “watch for horses," according to Tracy Ruth, communications-division manager for the Maricopa County Department of Transportation. Other commitments include working with the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office to enforce speed limits and painting "watch for horses" signs on the asphalt. Simone Netherlands, president of Salt River Wild Horse Management Group, a non-profit organization that protects the wild horses, said the Transportation Department committed to short-term and long-term plans to improve safety along Bush Highway. “We really want to commend them for their fast action,” she said. A non-profit group urges drivers to slow down along Bush Highway. (Photo: Salt River Wild Horse Management Group) Netherlands said the increase in fatalities may have resulted from the recent addition of guardrails along portions of Bush Highway. “The horses were getting confused by the guardrails, they kept walking into them,” she said, and were stuck within the confines of the road at times. Since April, five horses have been killed. Two of the horses had unborn foals. No people have been seriously hurt in the collisions, according to the non-profit group. Ruth said the county's Transportation Department has worked with the non-profit group for nearly five years, but immediate action was necessary because “it had become a significant issue.” Ruth said some of the long-term safety measures may be completed within the next year. These include installing speed "flashback" signs to remind drivers when they exceed speed limits and placing horse-crossing signs. The county also will work on developing long-term solutions, including radar-triggered flashing lights that are activated when horses are on the road. Bush Highway cuts across the habitat for the Salt River horses, a herd that has long been the subject of advocacy and debate. In August 2015, the U.S. Forest Service announced it would round up and remove the herd of about 100 horses that roam near the Salt River Recreation Area. The Forest Service said the horses were causing safety issues, including traffic collisions on the Bush and Beeline highways. An outcry from animal lovers and politicians halted the planned roundups, and an agreement to protect the free-roaming horses was announced in December 2017. Under the agreement, the horses are no longer considered stray wildlife and the law makes it illegal to slaughter, harass, shoot, injure or kill the horses.