Non-Typical Solutions

Good post.....I admit I love bringing up political things that are happening in our society and honestly feel like the campfire is a perfect place for talking politics. If we are going to use name calling as a reason to get kicked to the dungeon there is alot of cleaning up to do on this CWT board! I'm not a fan of name calling, I like that the site is kid friendly most of the time but it does disappoint me that we get sent to the dungeon just for wanting to talk politics with hunters.........

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The devastation between Omaha and KC along the Missouri was unbelievable!

Ft Leavenworth it is!! My wife takes me on these genealogy trips and I’m like all the sudden whoa this is that Ft Leavenworth 😂🙄

Any recommendations for add on temporary towing mirrors? Need to attach onto a 2015 F150 Ecoboost!!!

Minding our own business this afternoon playing cards and then we had this visitor! Mesa RV Campground! Gunnison, Colorado!

You still up here? That trip is on our list!

By John Kolesza In Arizona, a small parcel of land in the Heber area was designated a wild horse territory in 1974 as prescribed in the Wild Free-Roaming Horses and Burros Act of 1971. At the time of designation, there were seven horses present and the area was designated as being roughly 19,000 acres. During the 1980s and early 1990s, the horses in this area died out. By 1995, the Forest Service could not find a single horse living in the wild horse territory. In 2002, the Rodeo-Chedeski fire destroyed over 500,000 acres of forests in areas surrounding Heber. With fences down, tribal horses streamed onto forest lands. By 2005, there were over 250 horses when the Forest Service announced intentions of rounding up these trespass horses. Lawsuits by horse advocates followed. The federal court issued its ruling in 2007 and directed the Forest Service to develop a management plan for the horses. Conservationists across Arizona have seen the dramatic changes in the forest areas of Heber and the horse numbers are estimated at between 500 and 1,000 head. If there is a culprit in this, it sits in the total lack of accountability with all of the forest supervisors and staff that have allowed the situation to fester over the past decade. A reasonable number of horses and a plan needed to be developed. The Apache Sitgreaves National Forests has created a climate of hostility and resentment, as well as an entitlement attitude by the horse advocates. The 19,000 acres that were designated as the horse territory has been expanded. The total land that feral horses now inhabit is over 400,000 acres. The “wild” horses are no longer wild, they graze with impunity at campsites. They are often referred to as the “bullies” of the range as they hoard water holes and drinkers to the exclusion of other wildlife. It is simply unacceptable that feral horses are managed differently than resident wildlife, lawful grazing, and at levels that clearly cannot be considered to exist within a “thriving ecological balance” as prescribed by law. This summer, public comments should occur (if the Forest Service can find the time) and that a plan will be put together. The wild horse advocates will scream in protest and file lawsuits so that the plan is on hold indefinitely. Sadly, these advocates do not care at all about any other wildlife. Last, but not least, illegal activity by frustrated people who do not share the passion that horse advocates do is reprehensible. Frustration at the inept forest management is the cause. The Apache Sitgreaves National Forest employees allowed this mess to fester for over 10 years with no action. The forest in another four years will be decidedly worse off and the number of horses will double by that time. Shame on the horse advocates for not being reasonable. They want the whole forest and the way things are going they will soon have it. I pity all of the other wildlife that is being forced out by the bullies of the range.

Surprisingly low until you get down past the Post Office! My wife saw an article with a picture about a bridge and wanted to see it! I told her I knew where it was! 😂

End of the school year fun!!!

Been up and down Red Hill road many times and yesterday it just looked better than usual!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2019/may/23/dog-jumps-from-campervan-during-wild-police-chase-video

Hunter and the hunted.........

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Bought these clear back in December an put them out first of May. My wife really enjoy checking cams so it becomes a fun outing! I set one cam up on just still photos and it had some glitch pictures on in.....like half frame shots but they were still clear daytime shots......not so much night time!

Thanks for letting us know and dang what a fun read going back through this old thread! Steve was one of the good ones!!!!

And get your money lined up for the bet that tournament fishing will be on the chopping block! Wonder what G&F is going to do as they continue to allow these folks to come in and strip all the privileges away......G$F will be out of a job!!!

With the help of maps provided by BowHuntAz I was able to locate the site I believe to have been "Sybil" at one time in AZ history. This past weekend I was able to find remnants of foundations, concrete slabs and what I believe to have been pillars for a water tower/tank. There are several railroad ties planted as posts in the same area and there is evidence of plumbing etc! According to the date stamp on one of the pillars 1923 is when some of that got built! My interest lies in the fact that my father in law lived in Sybil in 1954. While his family lived there his dad worked for Union Pacific and their house burned to the ground. We have one single picture that we collected from a relative that shows her dad and his brother standing in front of a couple of railroad tie posts with a trellis on top! I have been in touch with Union Pacific Railroad Museum in Council Bluffs, Iowa, Arizona Historical Society, Arizona Archives with nobody even acknowledging that such a place existed! Still waiting to hear from the California Union Pacific Museum to respond as well as Cochise County and no luck so far from the Benson Museum! Anybody that has kinfolk, relatives or just somebody you know who might have a picture of any of those buildings etc, I would love to get my hands on one! I gotta believe that somebody out there has a picture of that little railroad town! Any help appreciated!!!

I have enjoyed reading some of his stuff! He is funner to listen to..........

That email worked, got a quick response back from him! My wife and I tried to get him to speak at graduation while we were teaching in Ash Fork........ Hi Jeff, Do you have access to David Myrick's Railroads of Arizona? Sybil would have been a section station. We had several of them on both sides of Ash Fork the Santa Fe RR. They were Located every few miles or so and crews were stationed at each to check the tracks and make repairs. Most were never seen on regular maps but the railroads had them on theirs. Myrick's book would have it and maybe even some information. I have his other books on RR's but Volume 1 must be at home. I can check tonight. Jake Flake used to tell me about Belly Button, AZ and I could never find it on a map. I finally found it between Snowflake and Taylor. It was his ranch. Tell your wife I'm giving the commence speech at Ash Fork for the Class of 2019 next Tuesday. Marshall

First read the story in the Independent, then saw it on 3TV news and honestly the story got better from the newspaper to the interview! I dare say the person telling the story had no idea which direction bullets were flying!!!! Woman believes horses were targeted by shooter in Heber https://www.azfamily.com/news/woman-believes-horses-were-targeted-by-shooter-in-heber/article_d85250be-7399-11e9-a2b8-e390bc57b5ca.html