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I had the same reaction, but thinking back to Virginia Tech, if somebody, just somebody would have had a gun and willing to use it could have saved some lives. It is scary, I am a teacher and really don't want to have that put on my shoulders, but then again, I would rather be packing and ready than standing there helpless.....

This is where it is important to have grandpa around.....he goes up and tends to the campsite........rides his horses.......

I could care less if there are cattle in there myself, but something was done to the left side besides no cattle being in there, maybe a rancher went in at one point and time and cleared the land so the grass had more of a chance of growing or a fire went through there......there is more to the story of that picture than just cattle........we have alot of country up here where the cedar trees have been dozed over to create more grass areas, done by ranchers dang them anyway....which elk and deer and antelope and yeah.....cattle all benefit from. Oh, now we have the issue of dozing cedar trees right???? Speaking of rats a$$, I trapped my sons hamster in the mouse trap last week trying to catch the mouse my wife saw run across the livingroom floor.....sad day for the hamster, but of course they are probably imported anyway so good ridance.....lets get rid of all the imported little rodents....

Just for my own ignorant simple mind. In regards to the picture posted with this thread. Are you telling me the left side of the fence doesn't have any cattle on it and the right side does?

This has been an interesting thread, didn't really pay any attentiont to it until today. Kind of reminds me about my mom, after building a beautiful summer home up in Alpine, she made the comment that she hoped nobody built next to them so it would stay nice and pretty.......I commented to my mom that maybe somebody else wanted to enjoy the cool mountain air too....... We all want what we want but don't want anybody else to have what we have caus what they are doing hurts the environment. People down in the valley want farmers to keep the dust down......double LL people, farming was there before most of you were.... Over on Three forks there are now signs telling you not to go into the grassy meadow there because there are frogs down there.....imagine, frogs in the meadow where the river runs through........ Signs on the dirt roads throughout the white mountain area telling you not to turn your dog loose because there are wolves out there and your dog might get attacked and heaven forbid do not throw a rock at the wolf you might scare it off. They built a dad gum boat dock on the backside of Big Lake and ruined the best walk in fishing hole that there was on that lake......... And if you think the elk herd in AZ hasn't done its fair share of depleting deer habitat then you probably haven't paid any attention to the numbers of lions in this state either. I put lion at the top of the list for reasons deer numbers are where they are, then you go ahead and throw in drought and now you have serious deer problems........ And.....you really aren't giving the elusive coues deer much credit if you think that cows are running them off........ Did I get everything covered......shouldn't have read that thread all in one setting.....got my blood boiling......

Maple peak in unit 27......more bear than you will be comfortable with sleeping in a tent....

We got ours today......34B here we come......

How about Thumper??? Very nice looking piece....

Willie, it ain't no Unit 10 muley, but are you comparing it to one of those dink white tail sheds you found, you know the one on the microsheds forum???

For all you die hard wrestling fans.....it is true......ASU cut their athletics down to 20 varsity sports and wrestling was one of the varsity sports that got the AXE. Sad day for AZ Wrestling..............

I passed a rig headed from the Show Low area this morning...it had 4"+ on the hood........just wet and cold in Snowflake

Made about four trips to Tucson this past month, have been there many times before but those hills you cut through have got to be some of the most interesting formations around. If you are at dripping springs turnoff headed towards Globe it looks like the hillside got tilted something fierce. Anybody have any of the geological information about what they suspect is the cause of that country. I don't see any volcanic rock so it must be a meeting place for plates underneath, but I don't really hear any tells of earthquake activity around there. One of these days I'm gonna climb that mountain........

I'm guessing you are right, it is just such an awesome site, plus I thought maybe somebody on here has done some kicking up there......

On in Snowflake...wintery on......not snow but dang cold.....

Thats OK being on the other side of the fence.....I tend to prefer that side of the fence anyway. I did some constuction work there in Kachina a long time ago, was running cabinets for a local shop up there. I kind of felt like I was on a picnic getting to be out there working. Has that place grown alot or does it still have water problems?? Still some very nice pics.....

Amanda, I was counting in you.........

Does this mean you have 4 matching sets of antlers sitting somewhere?? That is awesome, those boyz are smart a@@e@ flaunting it like that out of season.....

Does it not seem strange that we have a man running for president whos name OBAMA ryhmes with OSAMA???? Or is it just me???

Dang gone for a couple of days and things go everywhere. Social medicine.....have you ever lived in a country where social medicine is practiced? Might want to try that one out before you jump on that band wagon. There is alot in a name no matter how you want to side step it.......good or bad, a name carries alot of weight depending on what that name is known for. If Obama can't stand up for his name then so be it, you have dirt on my name, then so be it, I'll take it head on. If a kid walks into my classroom and has the last name LOSER, am I going to treat him like a loser??? Only if he begins to act like one.........

Rained here in Snowflake this morning about 5:00......put down a nice shower....looks like snow weather over towards the Round Valley direction.....nice rain, hope we can get some more....

We still live in the best country in the world, I just can't believe that we have two characters running around on the face of the earth that are so scary and highly regarded in both their repective political endeavors. Does make me want to puke.......especially the latest that OBAMA came out with how he would handle the OSAMAS of this world......very scary....he is going to sit down and have a visit with them?????

Over the past couple of months the White Mountain Independent has been running stories about unfortunate circumstances regarding illegals in this country. I am getting sick of the stories, especially when the term Illegal is plastered all over each one of these articles. Here is a sample of what the articles have been like... http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19673912&BRD=2264&PAG=461&dept_id=506172&rfi=6

AZ Sounds like you have put alotof work into mounting those sheds, bring out the pics......

I did the google thing on ASU coaching salaries and here are some excerpts from an agenda from a meeting about their womens coaching contract. ISSUE: Arizona State University (ASU) requests approval of a multiple-year employment contract for Charli Turner Thorne as Head Women’s Basketball Coach from the execution of the contract through April 15, 2012, pursuant to ABOR policies 6-1001 through 6-1003. Coach’s current annual salary is $275,000. Effective July 1, 2007, Coach’s salary will be increased to $400,000 per year, consisting of $350,000 base salary and $50,000 additional salary. This salary increase is in lieu of any performance criteria salary increase under Coach's existing contract. Coach's salary will be for basic duties relating specifically to coaching and for additional duties consisting of participation in media programs, development activities, public relations activities and endorsements, and other promotional activities. Effective July 1, 2008, Coach will receive an increase in additional salary from $50,000 to $100,000. Academic Performance Compensation Academic Year GPA Graduation Rate (Fall/Spring semesters) (NCAA 4-year rolling rate) $20,000 2.8 OR 75% $22,500 2.9 OR 80% $25,000 3.0 OR 85% A single payout for the highest achievement in post-season competition: NCAA two games $10,000 NCAA three games $25,000 NCAA four games $35,000 NCAA five games $50,000 NCAA national championship $65,000 Coach may also receive retention bonuses for staying through certain dates. If Coach stays as Head Women's Basketball Coach through April 15, 2011, Coach will receive a bonus for staying for the 2010 to 2011 basketball season of $240,000. In addition, if Coach stays as Head Coach through April 15, 2012, Coach will receive a bonus for staying for the 2011 to 2012 basketball season of $160,000. AS you can see, there is some serious money being earned by coaches at the college level...UofA Livengood Athletic Director was making a million plus in 1998, so I can imagine what miss Love is making at ASU........lots of money floating around to be cutting programs. Definitely top heavy.

Nice post Schmitty, what year did BYU drop their wrestling program? I agree, football carries the torch for many a sport to have money, it is just the way things are. I know here just at the high school level, nobody makes any money off of gate, just football, and basketball if Alchesay is playing here.