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Somebody needs to do a background check on that guy....relocated to New Mexico.....and why????? From where??? Come on last name Miele????? I grew up in New Mexico, rural New Mexico, we (I) learned to drive down the middle of the road and scoot over to our side when one of the two vehicles we would see that day approached. Don't ever recall seeing animals with their heads chopped off on the side of any dirt roads or the few paved roads that exist in that state. Showed my 11 year old just yesterday how to do the Tokyo Drift on a dirt road, something I learned on the dirt roads of New Mexico. Learned from my dad how to put a pig down, gut and butcher with the least amount of "suffering" to the animal and then how to cook the meat. Learned from my brothers how to take wild game and take care of the meat so it didn't spoil. Also learned how to get unlost and what to do better next time so I didn't get lost. Been stuck in the mud and snow on hunting trips more times that I would like to admit, had to spend the night out with a fire waiting for morning to get dug out, had my wife, three young boys, sister in law and two young girls........great learning experience, we were prepared and my kids knew it and weren't scared. We do alot of things with our kids as hunters and a very high percentage of those activities are character building and teaching experiences. I can't imagine what I would substitute for that time spent with my boys out in the hills and praries of the country. Thanks to those who pushed for this turkey hunt that gives me one more chance to take my boy out and have a great time hanging out with him in an environment and setting that we both enjoy.

But in an interview on Fox TV in San Francisco, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) chalked up the GOP grass-roots effort as “AstroTurf.” “This initiative is funded by the high end; we call it AstroTurf, it's not really a grass-roots movement. It's AstroTurf by some of the wealthiest people in America to keep the focus on tax cuts for the rich instead of for the great middle class,” Pelosi said. Other House Democratic leaders took a different tack: One senior aide has been circulating a document to the media that debunks the effort as one driven by corporate lobbyists and attended by neo-Nazis... In addition, the tea parties are “not really all about average citizens,” the document continues, saying neo-Nazis, militias, secessionists and racists are attending them. The tea parties are also not peaceful, since reporters in Cincinnati had to seek “police protection” during one of the events, it states.

Just an update from Nancy Pelosi....those of you who attended any tea bag parties yesterday are upper class severe right wing. There weren't any middle or lower class people in attendance to this grass roots protest. Uuuhhhmmmmm, she is right on one account.....I am probably bottom middle class and I didn't attend cause......I was at work. Guess I will count my blessings that I have a job.

What if I want to send my son to vet school up in Washington will he have to pay out of state tuition? When I lived in New Mexico and went to school in AZ did I have to pay out of state? But if I am illegally here in this country I have the right to pay in state tuition?? A whole lot of wolves in sheeps skins kicking around out there, time to circle the wagons an take care of home.......

That beats any Easter hunt I ever been on.....nice job.....

I read this in a magazine, it was actually from a talk given in 1982 and then recirculated again just this year. The gull story comes from a Readers Digest from that time. Gullible Gulls “In our friendly neighbor city of St. Augustine great flocks of sea gulls are starving amid plenty. Fishing is still good, but the gulls don’t know how to fish. For generations they have depended on the shrimp fleet to toss them scraps from the nets. Now the fleet has moved. … “The shrimpers had created a Welfare State for the … sea gulls. The big birds never bothered to learn how to fish for themselves and they never taught their children to fish. Instead they led their little ones to the shrimp nets. “Now the sea gulls, the fine free birds that almost symbolize liberty itself, are starving to death because they gave in to the ‘something for nothing’ lure! They sacrificed their independence for a handout. “A lot of people are like that, too. They see nothing wrong in picking delectable scraps from the tax nets of the U.S. Government’s ‘shrimp fleet.’ But what will happen when the Government runs out of goods? What about our children of generations to come? “Let’s not be gullible gulls. We … must preserve our talents of self-sufficiency, our genius for creating things for ourselves, our sense of thrift and our true love of independence.”2 The practice of coveting and receiving unearned benefits has now become so fixed in our society that even men of wealth, possessing the means to produce more wealth, are expecting the government to guarantee them a profit. Elections often turn on what the candidates promise to do for voters from government funds. This practice, if universally accepted and implemented in any society, will make slaves of its citizens. We cannot afford to become wards of the government, even if we have a legal right to do so. It requires too great a sacrifice of self-respect and political, temporal, and spiritual independence. In some countries it is extremely difficult to separate earned from unearned benefits. However, the principle is the same in all countries: We should strive to become self-reliant and not depend on others for our existence. Governments are not the only guilty parties. We fear many parents are making “gullible gulls” out of their children with their permissiveness and their doling out of family resources. In fact, the actions of parents in this area can be more devastating than any government program.

Nail on the head Coues n Sheep............

If you are trying to preserve the bird for taxidermy, is there hope of saving the meat as well or is it one or the other???

Good post Jeremy, you really ought to check out the site that they advertise at the end of the article. Interesting group of people, we ought to get them worried about drunk driving or something that really kills alot of people.

How about the gal that went Polar Bear hunting in Unit Z in Germany.....might make you think twice about hunting that unit

Anybody got any quick hints on locating turkey? I have heard howling, crow caw and stuff like that after the sun goes down will get them to gobble in the roost. Any truth to that notion?

I glassed one up through the windshield of my truck if I had of reacted properly I would have run right over him, but dodged instead, one lucky cat. Just north of Globe, climbing up the hill there.

Herd that critter this way.......nice find

I have an air horn sitting right here on my desk......can't say I have every paid attention to a peacock screamer...I had my calls out in the livingroom last night had my wife and my dog both about ready to chase me out of the house....guess I better step outside to practice tonight. Thanks guys, what about 1:00 in the morning.....does the same hold true as far as them gobbling up on the roost??

Watched the news last night about D-backs winning their first game of the season. Not a bad start. What caught my attention was all the talk about the light rail. Estimated 15,000 people used the light rail, which they were excited about. Policemen were monitoring the light rail to make sure, or try to make sure people had passes to ride the light rail. It was mentioned on the news that the light rail is used on an "honor" system and that it is estimated that 3 out of 100 ride the rail without a proper pass, or in other words, for free. Quite an interesting concept and if so, then why the police??? In Norway they have a pretty sophisticated transportation system in Oslo, buses, subways, trains, electric rail.......but you gotta show the driver, or the ticket taker your pass as you walk through....... Sounds like we are contributing to the Obama concept of a free ride By the way, Norway is a socialistic country and trust me.......we don't want to go there...........

Good to hear, no pun intended. What do people do who have hearing loss, get hearing aids and still have to work around the high pitched machinery and equipment? Special ear protection or just the regular muffs over the ears??

Not sure exactly what category this falls under, but gonna give it a fling. Any of you out there wear hearing aids while you hunt? And I am talking serious junk here, I am not talking about some sci-fi system to help me hear the deer. I am talking, i have a hearing loss and want to decide what to do. My wife is gonna kick me in the tail if she has to keep repeating herself and I want to hear better. But I heard that hunting with hearing a hearing aid in your ears can be a nightmare. Any brand suggestions?? It is a real pisser getting old..............first bi-focals now this mess..............

That is pretty cool huh, a great excuse to get out there and beat the bush. I bought one for my kid, the easter bunny is bringing to him on Sunday, I am excited.......gonna try and do the camp thing over at Alpine too. That is a nice job on AZGF department.

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That is funnier than heck....that has to be good luck.......go figure, I am trying to help in an onery way and he ends up being number 666. tyler, you can glass for me any time...good spot.

Lots of good info and thanks.....I just want my wife to quit getting mad at me for saying huh, well and then I wouldn't mind hearing the rocks clattering when I have busted a deer, actually, I don't want to hear that cause that means I screwed up again..........I appreciate the info, so I guess the next step is a small loan and an audiologist.

Dang it Tyler, you made that too easy, I was hoping for the next question...you know....I can't find 666 on the map and at least I would know he was looking at a map. Lots or room for camping off of beaverhead as well............. More important is.;....where are the turkey

OK, I will jump in here, I have been in the same boat and needed help. 27 is a pretty big unit so lets get it out in the open if you have any ideas where you think you want to hunt. Any of those roads cutting through towards middle mountain, diamond rock, buffalo crossing a guy can pull off and pitch a tent. Along 666 there is stray horse, and spots like that. If you dive off red hill road to the east off 666 there is all sorts of room for throwing a tent. If you want a shower and bathroom......motel in Alpine

That story made my day, thanks..............I needed kicked out of the crap pile.........

Here is an interesting twist to where this story might be headed. My son googled "Phelps Dodge Winchester", to make a long story short. Dodge in coherts with Winchester was shipping ammo to Mexico. Therefore a possible tie between PD and Winchester. Interesting, here is the link to the book that talks about this. http://books.google.com/books?id=yb3p5OlZgugC&pg=PA126&lpg=PA126&dq=phelps+dodge+winchester&source=bl&ots=qozR6GcVK8&sig=qLkTssH9ZjZFxvVUuizqWCgRAis&hl=en&ei=YyzWSZj3OI30tAPCvKmuCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#PPP14,M1