Non-Typical Solutions

That right there is borderline insanity.......make an honest man think about things he hadn't ought too......nice pics and heck of a nice buck.....good luck getting him a quarter mile away from your house

Check out my avatar...do I like non-typical???? Going back in for this one again this year....and you just fueled the fire thanks for sharing the pictures. Got a tag in my pocket burning a hole in it...

That was some good information, thanks, especially the FAQ's section of your link. Scary thing is though I really didn't get to see much map of Unit 27? Am I not doing something right or is it just not ready for public access yet??? Thanks for the link.

That was my first thought as well, then I went home and it is like hey....my internet provider blocked me out too.....I mean it did say FORBIDDEN at the top. So I am thinking, that some hacker didn't want me looking at dead deer and animals...... Thanks Amanda for a great site that I enjoy reading on a daily basis....

That right there is what it is all about....nice catch boys...

That does look like fun. Hope you have been preparing yourself for what Unit 27 looks like, it is gonna break your heart.....thanks for sharing and glad to hear you are making your way back down south.

There were several people who came in while I was gleening information and they were there for permits to travel for example to Sprucedale because they had rented a cabin there. Big Lake road is "open" for travel but you are not to go out hiking in the forest. She assured me they were working hard to get the forest "open" for hunters and such but that I would suffer a $5000.00 fine if I were to get caught hiking around in any part of the Apache-Sitgreaves forest. Good luck on your youth cow tag, I have a 27 whitetail deer tag and looking forward to getting back out in the hills.

Money and the lack there of. The High cost of living ain't nothin like the cost of gettin high........got me, two kids and the wife to put in for Elk.....ain't gonna happen cause if I actually get drawn I now have 4 tags and can't afford to put gas in the truck or take time off work.....burning both ends of the candle.......

One of our drives during the stay was up Auger Canyon there out of Nutrioso. Not sure where your folks live there, but that was a pretty scary sight to see how close those houses were to the burn. Course if you follow the ridge down from the Alpine divide towards Nutrioso it is easy to see what was headed for Nutrioso.

I am sure there are those with better pics of what has happened and what is going on out there but thought I would share a few from this past week up at Alpine. Got cabin fever waiting for Big Lake road to open up on Saturday. Here are some photos from the cabin back porch from Friday, this is about noon if I remember right. First sighting of water headed our way after a good rain. Pushing cows out of the pasture, those cows were not happy. Flooding over the road to the Chapache development. Fence that got bent over because of the trash it collected. Emergency vehicles responding to a group of motorcyclist that got washed off the road about half a mile north of Big Lake turnoff. Tobaggan Hill in Williamson Valley, or what is left of it. Elk next to the burn on Big Lake road. Three Forks.....this one just was horrible, the picture don't tell the story. Bad burn through this area and logs that have been cut for safety reasons. The Y off Big Lake road to Middle Mountain and Diamond Rock. I hate to see what that looks like down that road. Very difficult drive, while there is alot of green, it is unacceptable the devastation allowed by this fire.

Unit 27 WT we will have our bear tags as well.....sure do hope they open up the unit for hunting, come on G&F Gods, smile upon our unit

NOHOCH, I figured giving you he was 2 miles south of Hannagan was more than enough info to give somebody some hope. Two years ago we had 2 Unit 27 Bull tags, went way off down south and saw one bull while my wife watched 20 bulls run through that meadow in front of my dad's place....they know where to hide

Pine Donkey, How about your folks place in Nutrioso??? We came home last night through a heck of a storm and I worried about the flooding.

We ran over to Alpine today for the first time since evacuating my dad's place. Say what you want there are some bright spots out there but it made my stomach ache. First photo here is just dropping into Alpine, my dad's place is to the far right, red roof. Next shot is just climbing out of Alpine south on 191 looking back at South Mountain, it is ugly. Last picture for those of you who have unit 27 Bull tags, this guy looks really lost about two miles south of Hannagan. Thanks to all the firefighters....my dad's place was spared as were many, many others.

That is awesome, congrats to the kids for makin dads day finding some horn......

I saw one of those in Southern New Mexico as a kid, it dropped 8-10" of sand on our back yard, spent a week digging out the pig pens out back. Great photos......

That is great news....hope is was over Alpine way too....

Back in the 70's my dad and I did alot of fishing on the backside of Big Lake. My favorite fly we used to call it a brown wooly with a gold band. Surfing on the internet I can't seem to find anything that really looks like it. Am I using the wrong terminology?? Anybody out there who ties flys interested in making me a dozen? Not sure of the hook size, but it measures about an inch and a quarter. Would love to get my hands on some, I have a bet going with my son, he thinks I am just telling old fishing stories.

Reminds me of one of them fishing videos.....all catching and no slow spots Nice batch of antler looks like fun......thanks for sharing the video... Jeff

That is great news....now lets get the rest of those folks in Nutrioso and Alpine back home??? Great job fire fighters and again thank you so much for your guts and ability. Jeff

Great photo TJ......

Thanks for the pictures, tough to swallow, I have been amazed though and what the firefighters have been able to do....nice job guys and stay safe.

Thanks for the photos of Big Lake and the links and info, much appreciated. Jeff

Just a few pictures from Alpina Chapache Development......looks real promising at least for that area. Thank you so much to all of the fire fighters who protected our homes to this point. Our place is not in these pictures but what is here looks really good.

While this fire is still raging, homes still in peril, lives still in the line of the fire, forest disappearing by the hour!!!!! There is obviously going to be alot of timber out there that got blazed but is still standing, reference the R/C fire experience. Will they let logging happen? Wouldn't it be smart to get all that timber out so we don't end up with the same problem on the floor of the now barren forest? Why not start right now while the fire is still hot and get people ready to go in and help out what is left of our barren forestland? Does this make any sense to anybody else or am I just not getting it?? They let the R/C fire sit, and sit, and sit......and then allowed some logging, but it is now a mess out there if any of you have tried to hike through some of that country. Who or what can we do to get our system to take care of this right instead of just letting it sit?? Are we going to stand by and watch or can we do something?? Not trying to diminish the current status of the fire, but really would like to figure some way to be proactive in getting this in front of the leaders who are going to be making this decision. Brewer??? Washington DC??? Sierra Club??? Thoughts???